Try sending your pic's to photobucket, and then downloading them as attachments. Works for me, and I'm no computer whiz.

For covering, I'd go for 'tex, gives a realistic fabric-like surface, too, as the weave shows through, and the surface isn't shiny. Bear in mind that 'tex is NOT fuelproof, and needs sealing.

Eddie,

calm down a bit - reading Martyn's thread has given me an overall positive view of your kits - everything nicely cut, reasonable instructions for this level of build etc.. That his kit came with delaminated ply is an honest comment - ok, he should have contacted you, had the parts replaced, and commented on a positive reaction from your company, but this is the real world. He tried to work round it,and came back with his results - his work-around didn't!

Maybe if you had contacted Martyn off the forum and rectified the problem for him, you would have got the recommendation you want from Martyn in this thread? Cuts both ways you know.

Anyway, it's nice to know we still have a kit manufacturing business run by someone who takes pride in his work, keep it up.

Hi Bob,

Maybe a bit of a knee jerk reaction from me but it is very difficult to accept (CHEAP & NASTY) when we try so hard to get it right, and with a willingness to correct any errors.

 Yes it cuts both ways, but Judy & I are also human and we have feelings. Martyn's comments were out of order in this case.

We will keep up the work, we are quite willing to put the time in, most of our customers are really satisfied with our efforts, but you can't please everyone all the time.

Thanks for your comments Bob, it's appreciated.

Eddie,

Sorry to you seem to be so upset.

You said that my 'comments are quite derogatory and wholly unnecessary regarding cheap ply'. I think if you read my comments again you'll find I never mentioned cheap ply at all. And I can't see what I said that was derogatory. 

I think it's fair to say that, on the whole, I am THOROUGHLY DELIGHTED with the kit so far.  I've said on this forum what high standard the parts are.  I think the kit itself is VERY HIGH QUALITY, and incredibly GOOD VALUE FOR MONEY.

This is a discussion thread, not a 'positive opinions only' thread. People want to hear honest opinions, and how we overcome the inevitable obstacles.  I stated that I did get a couple of delaminated ply peices. I fixed it easily, and said what I had to do.

Martyn

Sorry Martin, but you did! look at your comment 17/03/08 timed 0905, starts Ernie, what are rib tapes?

I have no axe to grind on this subject, suffice to say all natural materials or man-made variants, can have flaws. Even BAE have had their typhoon c/f sheets fail on test!

I've read my comments again...and yes I did say that.

To be factual, two peices of ply were badly delaminated, and a couple of others just a little bit. I never thought this was a major problem, it happens with any materials, especially wood. Any model builder should know and accept that.  It wasn't difficult to fix (although my first attempt CA'd the wood to my vice ! - second attempt I wrapped it in plastic tape (sticky side out) before putting it in the vice and it came out perfect).

Shame Eddie's got a little heated over this. I think my positive comments on the kit throughout this thread, and discussions up the field, have FAR outweighed this small negative one, and I would still recommend DB Sport & Scale to anyone as a quality builder of scale kits. This was a factual statement, not a derogatory remark, and I think this is expected by readers of forums such as this.

Personally I always prefer an honest review to a sychophantic advertising piece.

I think D B Sport and Scale are excellent, and have delt with them many times.

I know for a fact that if you had given them a ring and asked for replacement parts, they would have done so quickly and efficiently with no qualms.

They are friendly and courtious and try their level-best to provide top-notch service.

If ever a customer has a problem with construction or materials there will never be a question of whole-hearted co-opperation on their part (if it is asked for!).

Forums are for information purposes not personal attacks such as "cheap and nasty", that was completely unnecessary.

Surely it would have been quicker, simpler and less hastle just to give them a call and ask for replacement parts rather than jump to offensive remarks!

Perhaps an apology is in order?! I can utterly understand eddie's frustrations on this matter as the comments were just entirely uncalled for.

I've seen this sort of thing before.

Someone makes a single justified comment, and people jump in, saying this and that and demanding the other.

It was the BMFA forum and looked what happened to that.

Martyn had a valid comment to make, and eddie (rather robustly) had his say.

I find it rather amusing that you choose this as your first post, why not fill out your profile and introduce yourself properly.

Andy

are you not jumping on the so-called band wagon by putting your 2 cents in?!

Please lads, PLEASE, enough of this. Had I thought it would develop into something like this I would have kept Schtum.

 It has been quite clearly demonstrated that there are opinions on both sides, if we were at fault then all we can do is apologise for any inconvienience caused as things stand.

We cannot any longer replace parts because quite clearly the fuselage is built. As in the comments above, we would have had we been made aware of it, but that (sadly) is history.

We do not wish for fall outs between people or bickering over this, it is an innocent error that got out of hand (possibly due to our own sensitivity) now it needs to be put to rest and left in the past.

Eddie

I dont think DB Sport & Scale were at fault ! I just received a couple of "less than perfect" bits of wood !

I didn't phone and ask for a replacement because it wasn't a big problem, it just needed a bit of glue. When I tried to fix it I glued my vice shut. I though that was comical enough to post about it. I'd have learned not to do it that way if I'd read about somebody else doing it.

I've emailed Eddie on other matters (me misunderstanding the instructions and advice on engines etc) and he's been fine and helpful.

I'll phone you soon Eddie, and this'll all be forgotten.....

Undercarriage next !

For  the record, DB is probably one of the most approachable UK KIT companies period.

Many Thanks for your help eddie with my 1/4 scale pup queries that you so kindly helped me on even though I bought the kit secondhand.

 Faulty products are not the problem, but how they are resolved that matters.

Now enough of this sillyness, breaks over, back to building!!!!!

Hi,

   I want to build myself my first scale 'proper' kit, I was wondering if DB are a good place to buy my first scale from. Are there any other place I should look?

          Ben 

DB are excellent as are their kits, but you might try Flair Products.

Andy

DB are certainly worth considering.

I was looking to get a Flair kit, but decided on DB (at the very last minute) after some personal recommendations up the field.

Back to the build, anybody that's still interested after all the interuptions.

It seems that the ModelFlying.co.uk techies have fixed the photo gallery thing, cos I've managed to upload another picture.

The fuselage is coming along great; decision time now, because I have to put the tank in before I glue the top thin ply (which looks a very nice peice of ply Eddie!) on the top of the fuselage. So do I glue the tank in? If not it'll rattle around like a prick in a bucket. I think I might as well, because once I've glued the ply fuselage top on I'll never see the tank again anyway.

Still not sure what engine I'm putting in, so not sure if tank position is going to be important.

Decisions, decisions...

Top wing center section is also coming along well.

Thicker than the wing, as this was, I think, the fuel tank on the original.