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I've been getting into building and flying electric models this summer (Summer, what summer ) but I'm finding it very difficult to understand the variety of ways that are used to describe motors. Its almost as if the manufacturers think it should be kept a closely guarded secret unless you're already in the know.

I'm beginning to get my head around the '2816/12' type description although even there I have now come across a different format in the '28/10/38'  style which leaves me back at square one. Then there are the '400' etc motors - what does that mean? For example today I bought a very cheap kit as a bit of fun - a small delta wing - which says it needs a 400 size motor. OK, I could presumably buy a Speed 400 or a Park 400 and not worry about it but, as these would cost £60+ including ESC I would like to look into other cheaper alternatives. But how to find out where to start?

Does anyonehave an easy to understand cross reference between these different systems?

Even better does anyone know of any published comparisons where you can start off knowing the Wattage you want (I guess most people know the sort of model weight they are buying for and the type of performance required which surely makes this the obvious starting point?) and work this back to motor option to achieve it?

Or should I just stop trying to understand what I'm doing and ask every time?

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Yes it is confusing isnt it! I actually find that the various numbers used are often quite useless anyway.

What I want to know as minimum is the Kv, the maximum current, and maximum wattage. With this I generally decide what will do the job. The old designation of "400" referred to older brushed can motors - and as for paying £60 for one with an ESC, that seems ridiculous - and yet again proves that "brushes are for floors". A cheapy equivalent speed 400 motor in brushless flavour can be had including a speed controller for peanuts these days.

There are just so mnay types of motors available these days with different winds and so on, that a "backward" comparison chart would be nigh on impossible - trying to find a one size fits all type motor is just not practical, because different model types require different power types IE high revs small props and low revs large props,each respective motor may well be 100watts capable for instance..... but produce that power in a totally different way.

No need to stop trying to understand it all, just accept that you will never know it all ( none of us do ) ut the basics as often mentioned hould get you on the right track.

1) 100 watts per lb average for typical sport model.

2) fast model - high rpm ( high Kv ) small diameter large pitch prop, probably inrunner

3) EDF - high Kv, very high revs.....almost always inrunner

4) slower model - the opposite....usually outrunner.

Edited: 29/09/08 23:06
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Ok that seems of some help but where do we pick up a Motor and speed controller for peanuts . I have just built the Yard Ace from the (Q&EFI) mag for September. The model weight a mere 10oz and its quoting that a low cost Atlas 2308/11 outrunner would be suffiecient.

My problem is finding anything from Atlas that is low cost. As this is just a park flyer can you guide me in the right direction tso that I can get some reasonably priced power train so that I can get it in the air.

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Neale

   

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