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BECS and regulator info ( beginners )

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Tim Mackey02/04/2008 16:48:00
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I am sure jet knows what wing fences are for Eric - quit while your ahead matey
Tim Mackey02/04/2008 16:50:00
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The bec from the ESC  MUST be disconnected ( snip /remove the red wire ONLY ) if using a standalone BEC.

I splice the BEC input wires into the ESC battey input wires, so it gets powered up as I connect the pack, but cannot be accidentally left connected and drain the battery. 

Bruce Richards02/04/2008 17:32:00
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Jet may know what wing fences are but I for one was pleased to have it explained because I had no idea. Also the reason for the saw tooth leading edge on the hunter was of use.

Thanks Eric. 

Tim Mackey02/04/2008 18:30:00
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Yeh I figured the same, and will probably mount mine up front nearer the battery. Only downside is additional weight of 3 long cables to motor instead of 2. My 60A ESC runs barely warm after a full 6 minute run of variable throttle.
Eric Bray03/04/2008 19:44:00
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OOPS! I meant that the fences were usually located halfway out along the span!!
Scott Cuppello - HobbyKing26/05/2008 12:48:00
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Can I just add my reccomendations please for 2.4ghz users?

On applications using over 3s [11.1v], or over 3 servo's, either a UBEC set at 6v output, or at minimum, an ESC/Switchable type. Our experiments have shown that brown out's can only be avoided totally with these options.

Lew Weaver26/05/2008 15:06:00
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Sorry to disagree - been using UBECs on 4.8v and up to 8S for more than a year now with no 

"brownout" - using up to 5 normal servos or 4 digital.

So why should I need 6v provided the UBEC is rated for the current drain?

Scott Cuppello - HobbyKing26/05/2008 15:15:00
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For the simple reason that not everybody can work out how to rate it for the current drain for a start, and secondly, like many others, I have come to the conclusion that using Spektrum on anything less than 6v  [when possible] is risky. If it works for you as is, fine, but many electric models that have had brown out failures on 2.4ghz [and even Horizon acknowledge this] have gone in because the BEC is not up to the job.
Nick Rigg29/05/2008 15:51:00
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Hi there - does this apply to Futaba 2.4g? I intend to use a Turnigy 60a UBEC with 4 standard servos and 4S power.

Haven't flown yet but static tests seemed fine

Tim Mackey29/05/2008 17:52:00
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Well as it was Scott who made the suggestion, I will let him answer that - personally I have found the Turnigy ESCs very good, and with 4 x servos - even on 4s I would say it would be OK, as these ESCs deploy a switching regulator rather than a simple linear one... I know Scotts concern is about the brown outs that some have experienced with the spekky, not sure what the position is with Fuby.
Scott Cuppello - HobbyKing29/05/2008 19:17:00
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Me neither to be truthful, but I wouldn't worry if you are fitting a Turnigy UBEC, they are superb. The problem with linear BEC's for anything over 3s/4 servo applications has already been explained, switchable are the way to go really if you are doubt, or a top quality UBEC.
Helidel29/05/2008 22:26:00
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Timbo,

On your post 02/04/08 (14.23) about a loud lo-volt alarm for the DX7 you suggested there'd be a followup, can't seem to find it can you point me in the right direction please?

Tim Mackey29/05/2008 23:50:00
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Is this what you are after.?

if you want the detail - then message me with your email address so I can email the zip file to you

Helidel30/05/2008 22:05:00
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Timbo

Thanks for the info on the DX7 

Tim Mackey30/05/2008 23:07:00
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Glad you got it OK....and you have heeded my advice re the charging I take it !
2Bigus31/05/2008 11:46:00
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Just discovered your Forum some excelent information..

Perhaps you could confirm my suspicions on my latest wipe out. I had constructed a blue foam Spit', plans off an internet site I exspect you have seen, it wieghed about 1.5 lb.

I used a small bell motor brushless with a 15A controller with a 2amp BEC, Esky reciever and 3, 8g servos.

Now I have not flown for some time, but the flight was exceptionaly eratic untill the crash! It seemed  like a radio problem but looked as though it was OK on static tests.

I made up a 12v pack of 1500mah NIMH AA cells for the power supply, it was this weight I think was responsible for the wreck.

Was the Bec not upto it? reading your posts it seems it may not have been. I am reluctant to try again before I get to the root of the problem. 

Thanks DB 

Tim Mackey31/05/2008 14:43:00
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Hi there and welcome aboard - most small brushless ESCs are only really happy on 2 - 3 s LiPo as a maximum for BEC purposes, and as 3s LiPo is nominal 11.1V this could well be your problem.

How many cells did your pack consist of? 12V could mean nominal ( 10 cells ) or peak ( 8 cells )

2Bigus31/05/2008 16:38:00
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Thanks for your reply. It was a 10 cell pack of 1500 mah AA cells.

thanks DB

Tim Mackey31/05/2008 19:36:00
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Ah well then in that case I reckon thats the likely problem.

10 nixx cells fresh off the charger will be around 15Volts! and the small 15A ESC BEC will not like that at all

John Melville03/06/2008 13:16:00
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I liked the look of the Seagull AT-Texan reviewed in RCM&E June issue and as the guy at the shop said that my waiting for use EnErG A3615-4 1600RPM/V and JETI Advance 40 plus would be a good match the cash just flew out of my wallet. Having learnt that I was misinformed I have now bought the recommended JP C42-20 900KV and intend getting the recommended 4s battery.

I have read that above 3s an OPTO type ESC should be used and accordingly was hoping to employ a yet unused JETI Advance 70 opto plus together with SBEC-5V.

I have also read that when using SBEC (or separate receiver battery) the red wire on the controller receiver/throttle plug needs to be disconnected. Is this still the case when using an OPTO version of the controller which I thought is designed for such applications. The JETI OPTO I have has three wires fitted to the receiver plug red, brown and orange.Do I disconnect the red wire from the controller/receiver plug or just plug it in as it is ?I would very much appreciate some helpThank you

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