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McG 696930/10/2017 17:35:08
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Really glad you signed up as well, Mark.

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton30/10/2017 19:09:02
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Hi Mark, welcome to the Fury build. I am still not sure what will happen about parts, I am still getting quotes from suppliers regarding glass, brass and balsa cutting. But with Dylan and Sarik sorting parts out there is not much point in duplication. Plenty of time to sort that all out though.
I spoke to Richard on Sunday and he is going to weigh his Fury.

Cheers
Danny
Mark Elen30/10/2017 19:41:50
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Hi Gents,

Thanks for the welcome.👍

Danny, I'll order the plan and the cowl from Sarik and source the wood myself.

Many Thanks

Mark

Martin Fane31/10/2017 16:01:25
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Danny

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Martyn K31/10/2017 16:14:36
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That looks rather like a Traplet kit.. I assume that there are a lot more wing ribs..

Thanks Martin

 

Edited By Martyn K on 31/10/2017 16:15:25

Danny Fenton31/10/2017 23:44:52
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Thanks Martin, really appreciate you taking the time to post these. A few items have been interpreted differently to how I read the drawing, I will have to re-visit the plan in the morning

Thanks again

Cheers

Danny

richard dalgleish01/11/2017 16:10:14
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Looking at the parts photographs, one thing I remember from building mine is the stringer notches in the formers did not line up very well. I think I made new formers without the notches then cut the notches out when assembled (if that makes sense)

Richard

Danny Fenton01/11/2017 23:01:42
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Hi Richard, that is good feedback. Perhaps smaller notches cut, then you can open them up better alligned?
Cheers
Danny
Jose L. G.11/11/2017 08:58:19
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Good morning. Yesterday I received a parcel fron Sarik.

I went for the full kit they offered. Now that I have the plan for the model I can check the size of the Wood I need for spars and longerons. I use metric wood, but have some in inches from previous models I`ve built. I`ll check if I can adapt some size from inches to metric.

At this moment I don`t know if it will be electric or i.c. (Glow or petrol). More to come when I study the plan.But in the last six years I only has been flying electric models.

With the kit is included copy of the articles published in RCSI 2004 (three parts). They explains the building and modification of the cowl (a new one) because the part is shorter than in the full size.

That`s all for the momento.

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Jose L. G.11/11/2017 09:02:03
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Danny Fenton11/11/2017 09:48:48
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Great information Jose. Does the spinner now fit the plan?
Guys when you start studying the plan can you look at those ply ribs in the centre section. They are not cut how I would interpret the drawing. To me the ribs should be in three parts. That could be just me misinterpreting the drawing. I would be interested in your thoughts?
A friend has a copy of those buil notes and has offered me a copy, I look forward to reading the article.
Welcome aboard Jose

Cheers
Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 11/11/2017 09:49:42

Jose L. G.11/11/2017 10:19:36
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Thanks Danny.

The spinner I`ve received is the old one, bigger than the cowl. In the begining I wasn`t going to order it but the discount is over the full kit, so I included it,

I can use the spinner to make a carbon/fiber one with a ply backplate.

I`ll check the plan ribs you comment. Probably I`ll made the wing in three parts with the center (top and botton) attached to the fuse permanently.

Cheers.

Jose Luis

Martian11/11/2017 10:22:30
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I will check my parts from Dylan against the plan asap

McG 696911/11/2017 10:46:35
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Hi Danny,

If this apprentice is allowed an opinion, I guess your 'three parts' approach should be right.

If I understand correctly, the plan shows the rib in one piece though.

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The idea seems to be that the concerned central ribs should be cut by the builder. The same apparently for the ribs at the ailerons locations where the hatched part should be removed.

I hope I'm not writing down stupid things.

By the way, does somebody has some .pdfs of the (RCSI 2004) 3 parts article mentioned above? If so, I would like to receive a copy and have a look at it. Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton11/11/2017 12:25:57
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Hi Chris yep you have spotted what I am referring too. However if it is cut into three how is integrity maintained? Possibly sheeting will do that?
I would like to see a pdf too but copyright laws might preclude that.
Cheers
Danny
Daithi O Buitigh11/11/2017 12:37:59
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I think there's an exemption here Danny: From the relevant legislation:

s32.—Illustration for instruction Fair dealing with a work for the purposes of instruction does not infringe copyright as long as not for commercial purposes."

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Danny Fenton11/11/2017 12:49:27
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Ahhhh okay that's interesting
Chris, i think you may be right, perhaps a guide line should be on the cut parts?
Cheers
Danny
McG 696911/11/2017 13:30:02
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Hi again,

Yippie-yeeaaah... so, if somebody has the .pdfs at hand, I shouldn't even have to pay for it... wink

I had another look at the plan, Danny. I don't think 'integrity' would be a problem.

For the top wing, both external center section ribs are 6mm, reinforced by the B2s and B3s. The internal ribs have more a function of keeping the airfoil shape.

Regarding the bottom wing, I think that B4, both B5 & B6, together with C1 and C2 are doing the job. Together with the sheeting, of course.

Anyhow a tiny 'engraving' of the bits at the right 'removal' locations would be a great help for cutting.

Thanks again for your commitment.

Cheers

Chris

kc11/11/2017 13:47:58
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Chris, it is normal to build wings with the ribs in one piece then once wing has been assembled cut through the front (or rear) and insert brace then cut the other end. The brace then holds one end so the other cut can be made. A bit similar on ailerons too. Much easier to deal with ribs all in one piece than assemble lots of individual small parts.

A razor saw which is deep enough to make the whole cut or a very fine 'japanese' pull saw is the tool of choice for this work. Marking guidelines for the cuts before asembling wing is a good idea

McG 696911/11/2017 14:21:11
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You're absolutely right, KC. One piece ribs are quite easier to handle. But sometimes there is no other way. If you have to build a full depth laminated main spar - like often with Depron builds - you have to cope with individual parts for the ribs. frown

In this case, that's how Mr Bryant designed the Fury. Also the plan clearly notes "Not for beginners"...

I'm now wondering what I'm doing here... surprise

Cheers

Chris

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