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cymaz06/12/2017 18:36:52
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UPDATE,!!

After much deliberation, cogitation and utter laziness I have come up with an alternative solution. Having a second electric starter ( who doesn’t ), I cobbled something together with a few strips of aluminium, xt60 plugs and a Zippy lipo from Hobbyking. Works rather well and will be easier to handle starting the 4 engine G-CYRL...

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Don Fry06/12/2017 18:50:18
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Join the club. My addiction to hand starting gave the French government a big bill to cure the resulting stick flippers elbow.

Martin Harris06/12/2017 20:19:53
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Posted by onetenor on 29/08/2017 22:21:58:
Posted by Percy Verance on 28/08/2017 08:01:40:

These nitro engines seem to be gaining popularity. Do they offer any advantages over a glow engine? smiley

Are you really serious or just pulling our collective legs ???

I felt the same as Percy when I saw the thread title. There's a trend - particularly from newcomers who have come to the hobby from glow engined cars - to refer to glow engines as "nitro", when as we should all know, they are run on a mix containing mainly methanol (plus oil and optionally, nitromethane).

Technically of course, they are really diesel compression ignition engines but have been referred to as glow because combustion is started and maintained by the catalytic action involving methanol and glowing platinum, which also serves to differentiate them from the type we call diesel that run on a paraffin/ether based fuel and combust due to compression generated heat alone.

Edited By Martin Harris on 06/12/2017 20:21:30

onetenor06/12/2017 21:16:49
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Well, Well, somebody did catch on . There was a big smile at the end of it after all . Of course I know perfectly well what a nitro engine is .I've been modelling for close on 70 yrs and used the tem glow motors long before the Yankee Nitro term was used .LOL Tongue in cheek never went so well He He . What I really meant was Isn't it time we stopped using it willy nilly and used the more correct term GLOW plug motor with the W?


onetenor06/12/2017 21:26:33
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Posted by Don Fry on 06/12/2017 18:50:18:

Join the club. My addiction to hand starting gave the French government a big bill to cure the resulting stick flippers elbow.

Try Middle finger tendonitis from using fist two fingers for flipping.Only 1.5 s but done a lot it Flippin hurts (pun Intended ) LOLsmilelaugh

Martin Harris06/12/2017 22:08:16
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Posted by onetenor on 06/12/2017 21:16:49:

Well, Well, somebody did catch on . There was a big smile at the end of it after all . Of course I know perfectly well what a nitro engine is .I've been modelling for close on 70 yrs and used the tem glow motors long before the Yankee Nitro term was used .LOL Tongue in cheek never went so well He He . What I really meant was Isn't it time we stopped using it willy nilly and used the more correct term GLOW plug motor with the W?

Sorry - your post read as though you hadn't understood Percy's ironic intent...

onetenor06/12/2017 22:10:28
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Posted by cymaz on 06/12/2017 18:36:52:

UPDATE,!!

After much deliberation, cogitation and utter laziness I have come up with an alternative solution. Having a second electric starter ( who doesn’t ), I cobbled something together with a few strips of aluminium, xt60 plugs and a Zippy lipo from Hobbyking. Works rather well and will be easier to handle starting the 4 engine G-CYRL...

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GLOW PLUG ENGINE PLEASE not nitro . Joh O/T

Percy Verance07/12/2017 06:35:30
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From what I've seen/heard, the term "nitro engine" appears to be used more by newcomers to the hobby. I certainly never heard it used 20 or more years ago. It seems a more modern term too, in the same way as many younger people - particularly when in shops - seem always to ask "can I get" rather than can I have.......

Oddly, I overheard heard my niece's 10 year old daughter speaking not long back, and every fourth word or so seemed to be *like*.  Is the way we speak evolving I wonder?

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 07/12/2017 06:41:25

brokenenglish07/12/2017 07:36:50
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Yeah Percy, the "nitro" nonsense is a marketing term invented by the model car people, to make i.c. engines sound exciting and even a little "daring"!

As an old engine lover (in every sense), I'm relieved to find that I'm not the only person offended!

Shame that ridiculous marketing is destroying culture.

Ron Gray07/12/2017 07:38:02
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In the same way that every sentence has to start with “So”.

Nigel R07/12/2017 09:28:12
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"Yeah Percy, the "nitro" nonsense is a marketing term invented by the model car people, to make i.c. engines sound exciting and even a little "daring"!"

Look on the bright side, glow motors are still going strong in RC car land. Lesser of too weevils and all that.

john stones 107/12/2017 09:55:44
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Posted by cymaz on 06/12/2017 18:36:52:

UPDATE,!!

After much deliberation, cogitation and utter laziness I have come up with an alternative solution. Having a second electric starter ( who doesn’t ), I cobbled something together with a few strips of aluminium, xt60 plugs and a Zippy lipo from Hobbyking. Works rather well and will be easier to handle starting the 4 engine G-CYRL...

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Charger wants unplugging,been left on too long.wink

ken anderson.07/12/2017 09:59:10
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cymaz...cracking job....that should be published in the mag/handy hints dept....

ken Anderson...ne..1.... hints dept.

Cuban807/12/2017 10:10:43
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Posted by Martin Harris on 06/12/2017 20:19:53:
Posted by onetenor on 29/08/2017 22:21:58:
Posted by Percy Verance on 28/08/2017 08:01:40:

These nitro engines seem to be gaining popularity. Do they offer any advantages over a glow engine? smiley

Are you really serious or just pulling our collective legs ???

I felt the same as Percy when I saw the thread title. There's a trend - particularly from newcomers who have come to the hobby from glow engined cars - to refer to glow engines as "nitro", when as we should all know, they are run on a mix containing mainly methanol (plus oil and optionally, nitromethane).

Technically of course, they are really diesel compression ignition engines but have been referred to as glow because combustion is started and maintained by the catalytic action involving methanol and glowing platinum, which also serves to differentiate them from the type we call diesel that run on a paraffin/ether based fuel and combust due to compression generated heat alone.

Edited By Martin Harris on 06/12/2017 20:21:30

Not totally convinced that we run actually diesel engines proper . From Wikepedia............... Diesel engines work by compressing only the air. This increases the air temperature inside the cylinder to such a high degree that atomised diesel fuel that is injected into the combustion chamber ignites spontaneously.

Our glow and 'diesel' engines compress a pre-mixed charge of fuel/air from the carburettor rather than injecting fuel close to TDC on the compression stroke as Dr Rudolf designed. Compression ignition, certainly. Diesel? not really. Similar but not the same MO.

Edited By Cuban8 on 07/12/2017 10:13:22

Martin Harris07/12/2017 10:45:28
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I believe you have a good point C8 - I was guilty of associating the terminology adopted by "our" diesel engines which are more accurately "Homogeneous charge compression ignition" devices - and assuming that fuel injection was a later enhancement to the original diesel implementation of compression ignition, coupled with the widespread adoption of the term "dieselling" to describe compression of air/fuel mixture leading to ignition e.g. using flammable oil in an air gun.

Having glanced at the original patent, the injection of fuel into the compressed air was an original integral feature of the design, ensuring that ignition started at the most efficient point in the cycle, rather than as soon as the ignition temperature was reached. You learn something every day!

Bob Cotsford07/12/2017 11:40:57
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I always though the 'Nitro' bit came from Top Fuel class dragsters which run up to 90% nitromethane, and was adopted by the model car racers as sounding a suitably dangerous description for their toy cars obsession devil

ASH.07/12/2017 12:27:23
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I'm guilty of using the term nitro a few times on here. It's just a slip of the tongue I'm afraid.. been reading too much on American sites.
I also cannot understand why some people, even professionals start sentences with So! It must be hip thing.
cymaz07/12/2017 17:11:10
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Glow engines...aka straight fuel engines for those that run 0% nitro ...devil

brokenenglish07/12/2017 17:26:11
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Posted by cymaz on 07/12/2017 17:11:10:

Glow engines...aka straight fuel engines for those that run 0% nitro ...devil

Respectfully Cymaz, I hope you're joking...

You mean that the name for any given engine depends on the fuel that you happen to be using today...

A glow engine doesn't cease to be a glow simply because you're using x% nitro!

At the outset, it was an "alternative culture" term, invented by marketing to stimulate car racing kids.
Followed by the fact that some people have a natural tendency to easily pick up "trendy" language.
Personally, I find that rather poor culturally, but we're all the way we are...

Don Fry07/12/2017 17:30:30
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Posted by ASH. on 07/12/2017 12:27:23:

I'm guilty of using the term nitro a few times on here. It's just a slip of the tongue I'm afraid.. been reading too much on American sites.
I also cannot understand why some people, even professionals start sentences with So! It must be hip thing.

Nah, can't spell therefore. Therefore they are dull.

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