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RICHARD WILLS18/11/2017 19:14:23
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Well Paul , your reputation as an excellent modeller continues on its upward Trajectory ,

DD , your future as a plumber is still ..........in debate .crook

I took this interesting picture today . The age old argument still rages between the merits of the 109 and our own iconic and beautiful Spitfire . But if you are really honest , dont all those other factors look somewhat irrelevant when you imagine yourself with these things being flung at you at high velocity? . I would definitely fancy my chances of escape to be far higher with a Spitfire on my tail than a 109 !

And remember if one of the big buggers hits your plane , it will rip out a hole the size of a dinner plate with the explosion . The little rifle bore non explosive slug will make a hole a big as a pencil and then lie dormant .

RICHARD WILLS18/11/2017 19:15:53
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Paul Johnson 419/11/2017 10:43:58
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It's slightly off topic but revalent to a degree. Found this group who play a computer game on line recreating the Battle of Britain. Each pilot is a player online. You don't have to go out and join them but some of the videos the group put up certainly show the struggle both sides faced. The quality of the graphics is outstanding.

Now back on my head.....

Paul Johnson 424/11/2017 20:42:32
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Well a few more 'Thoughts' !

The radiator is going to hide the flap servo but...!

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I want access to the servo and don't want to glue it on..... you know the problem ... if you seal it in yer gonna have to dig it out!

Sooo with a little thought decided to fit it by 4 small retaining screws fitted into a strip of ply glued into the wing.

A bit of fiddling but will work ok.

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The ply strip needs to be buried into the wing to keep the height correct so don't just glue a strip onto the wing surface....

Also fitted the servo horn plate for the aileron..

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Oh and yes D.D. I will line the servo box with 1/32" ply cheeky

Edited By Paul Johnson 4 on 24/11/2017 20:43:38

Paul Johnson 425/11/2017 22:01:20
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Been a busy day today so only glued in radiator mounting.

I widened the strips of ply to 10mm to have more adhesion area.

Also made them damp and screwed them on to take the aerofoil radius laser cut on the bottom of the sides.

Still thinking of the best way to hinge the flap section where it joins the radiator

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RICHARD WILLS26/11/2017 14:24:24
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Paul popped round today to show me the progress on his 109 .

Very tidy work as expected . One of the peculiar features of this model , is that because the fuselage is made in same way as the foam veneered wings , you get the remains of the foam block in the in kit as part of the packing protection .

Now this is very handy, as Paul demonstrates . Working on most fighter fuselages becomes just that . A fight !

They are awkward and generally don't have a natural bottom that means you can just stand it on the desk .

Consequently you end up trying grip the fuselage with your Knees when you are try to work on it .

On this model you simply put the fuselage back in its off cut , which conveniently has a large flat bottom .

Moral of the story ?

Don't throw away the packing .

BTW , the multitude of pictures and detail in Paul's build are appreciated by all of us and will no doubt prove invaluable to those that follow , but I think you will be surprised how quickly this one goes together ,

It really is not far from a Dynam or FMS model in terms of component count .

Hopefully should last a bit longer thanks to its hard skin .wink

Paul Johnson 426/11/2017 16:25:25
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Well The coffee was good and the chat welcome, I think Richard liked the way the hatch grabbed on and locked itself into place with the magnets... little bit like Arkwright's till really....surprise

When the kits are released the top deck should be all sorted so you don't have to decide where to cut...!

The way I have decided to fit the flaps servo's means that they will need one to be reversed. If you would like I can do a little article on here of how to do that with some pictures. It entails opening the servo up and reversing the motor wires and swapping 2 wires on the feed back potentiometer. I takes about 10 minutes to do it. And ten minutes of treating the burns from the soldering iron under the tap....wink 2

Glynn26/11/2017 17:16:46
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Paul

Banggood do a servo reverser for £1.31 inc p&p

**LINK**

Paul Johnson 426/11/2017 18:27:02
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True..! but when ya spend 5 years at college learning about it ya gotta use it... besides I'm a cheapskate...

As promised a little more on the flaps.

The main flap is now hinged and pinned and the radiator flap joined.. you can remove the radiator/flap by removing the small joining screw at the link so it can all be accessed.

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I t has a few extra holes which will be filled but that was due to me not liking my first attempts to get a good hinge which looked good too .I used the mylar hinge supplied in the kit but used screws to hold the tape between the ply I will put up some more close ups later to show the best way to get this neatly. I also used counter sunk screws in the link to keep the gap as small as possible.

Glynn26/11/2017 18:45:28
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It was the treatment for the burns, that made me think about the servo reverser. smiley

Paul Johnson 426/11/2017 18:50:53
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LoL you sure do get to know which end to pick up!

If you need any done Glynn give them to Richard and I'll sort them for you. yes

Glynn26/11/2017 19:27:32
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Thanks Paul, It will be some time before I need them though, I've just started one of Richards famous Spitfire's.

Christmas has come early, got to have a Spitfire to chase the 109's.

Paul Johnson 426/11/2017 20:03:08
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Enjoy... it's a masterpiece..!

Paul Johnson 427/11/2017 18:40:25
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Well you may be wondering why I used so many little screws on the hinges on the flap/radiator hinge...

I will let you into a secret...

The hinge I tried first looked terrible and I wasn't happy with it....

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I have sandwiched the mylar between the flap and stiffener beneath the screws and used off cuts of ply to do the same where the hinges meet the underside of the top of the radiator.

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You can of course use a single toothpick or single screw to hold it all secure and do the same job but I like the look of the small screws on the finished article..

Paul Johnson 428/11/2017 20:09:40
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Had a visitor at work today!

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Ron Gray28/11/2017 22:09:59
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Nice, both the hinges and the visitor!

Graham R28/11/2017 22:23:21
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Posted by Paul Johnson 4 on 28/11/2017 20:09:40:

Had a visitor at work today!

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Could it be another scale subject for Richard to create for us?

RICHARD WILLS29/11/2017 09:40:32
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Posted by Graham R on 28/11/2017 22:23:21:
Posted by Paul Johnson 4 on 28/11/2017 20:09:40:

Had a visitor at work today!

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Could it be another scale subject for Richard to create for us?

Very much wishful thinking I am afraid Graham .

We really hit the forum this year , with seven large builds . The 110 alone , has nearly 55000 viewings and yet we have sold two Spitfires (our best seller) in the last 6 weeks . Having just submitted my accounts for which amounted to a knee high stack of invoices, I have to be realistic and say enough is enough .

The 109 will be the last one I do commercially . It is simply the numbers . With the resources we have available now , it is criminal to put so much into designing something, to sell a dozen .

Far better to find a market that is crying out for a product and design something to fit .

R

Paul Johnson 429/11/2017 10:29:54
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Having been honoured in helping with the 109 to provide feedback and help with solutions to issues of the prototype. I have been given an insight to the work involved in producing a kit. It is a LOT of work. I can totally understand Richards choice. I fear because of the lack of sales in these kits it won't be long before it will become a time of either a 'foamie' or a total self designed scratch buid.

End of an era...

Graham R29/11/2017 12:22:05
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I do understand Richard. My comment was meant to be tongue in cheek. As long as I get a full 109 and retracts for the Spitfire before you finish then I will be a very happy bunny.

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