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FilmBuff12/12/2017 19:05:18
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So after a leaking roof repair last week (£450), a mis-fuel of unleaded into a diesel whilst on the way to the NEC on Saturday evening (£295) and now the boiler going kaput on the coldest day of the year (£1,850) I'm hoping that's my fill of bad luck.

Merry Christmas!

Don Fry12/12/2017 19:32:38
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I so wish. Then again, that you have the ability to pay these bills. Respect.

trebor12/12/2017 19:36:50
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Ouch! Was that a new boiler then ? A couple of years ago our boiler went kaput on New Year's Day. I had a hangover, cold, guests staying over, no chance in a engineer coming out. Turned out to be the bearings on the exhaughst fan. I got it going in the end yes

FilmBuff12/12/2017 20:18:14
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Posted by Don Fry on 12/12/2017 19:32:38:

I so wish. Then again, that you have the ability to pay these bills. Respect.

Really had no choice! I'm about to place two of the spare bedrooms on AirBnB

FilmBuff12/12/2017 20:20:10
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Posted by trebor on 12/12/2017 19:36:50:

Ouch! Was that a new boiler then ? A couple of years ago our boiler went kaput on New Year's Day. I had a hangover, cold, guests staying over, no chance in a engineer coming out. Turned out to be the bearings on the exhaughst fan. I got it going in the end yes

It's the fan that has gone. That would have just been £350, but it's obsolete and no spares are available for the boiler - so it's a straight swap with an A++ rated condenser job. The "good news" is that this is much more efficient and should cost 20% less to run.

trebor12/12/2017 20:51:27
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£350 for a fan disgust Ours is an old glow worm, it's had two fans now the last was a recon of eBay due to lack of spares .

Bob Cotsford13/12/2017 11:58:42
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I used to have a 25+ year old Ferrolli unit which was also obsolete and I kept it going for a number of years with spares off E-bay and internet suppliers. Finally I had enough of it and spent a similar amount (~£1800) having a Worcester-Bosch condensor boiler installed. Best move ever. It really is saving me a lot on the gas bills, I wouldn't swear to 20% but the engineers who installed it said their measurements of the old and new units were 70% and 98+% respectively.

FB - I too can't wait to see the end of 2017!

FilmBuff13/12/2017 12:50:55
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Posted by Bob Cotsford on 13/12/2017 11:58:42:

I used to have a 25+ year old Ferrolli unit which was also obsolete and I kept it going for a number of years with spares off E-bay and internet suppliers. Finally I had enough of it and spent a similar amount (~£1800) having a Worcester-Bosch condensor boiler installed. Best move ever. It really is saving me a lot on the gas bills, I wouldn't swear to 20% but the engineers who installed it said their measurements of the old and new units were 70% and 98+% respectively.

FB - I too can't wait to see the end of 2017!

Yep - I reckon in 5-6 years time I'll be quids in! Thing is even if the fan had got replaced - the guy would have to do an emissions test (like at a car MOT) and he bet his van that the boiler will fail. New boiler will have a 7 year warranty too.

Edited By FilmBuff on 13/12/2017 12:51:35

Bob Cotsford13/12/2017 13:56:55
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I got lucky with a 10 year warranty on the WB one, conditional on having it serviced every year for the 10 years. There are other bonuses to a new unit such as decent independant temperature controls for hot water and CH water, good wireless thermostats and the like.

Tomtom3913/12/2017 14:23:45
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Mine went on Monday. Thermostat has packed in on a two and half year installation . Earliest engineer can come in is this Friday. Just filled up with coal and logs. To top that my old 35mhz Skyleader system has just decided to give up too.

Martin Harris13/12/2017 14:52:05
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Do these calculations take into account replacing the replacement boiler though?

It seems that you're on borrowed time if a modern boiler makes 10 years so I would most likely be on my second replacement and heading for a third if I'd changed my geriatric Potterton Netaheat electronic with a 78% efficiency (which unless it's very special will be between 88 - 91%) for a modern one when I bought my present house 20 something years ago. The Potterton has needed a couple of repairs to dry joints on the control board and a replacement fan during the time I've had it. I'm dreading the day when it finally expires!

I'm not sure that those benefits mentioned only apply to modern equipment though. Are wireless thermostats only available for modern boilers?  Mine doesn't appear to know that and the tank thermostat seems happy controlling the hot water temperature while the heating water circulates from the boiler when it's needed!

Edited By Martin Harris on 13/12/2017 14:57:54

Mike Etheridge 113/12/2017 15:58:00
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If it makes you feel better FB, you got off light ! Over 10 years ago my wife put diesel fuel in her new Golf MK 5 that had done just 1000 miles. The car broke down on the A303 on her way to Dartmoor and the engine was totally wrecked and cost £4,000 to replace. Within the last year we have had to have the extension flat roof repaired at £2,000 and the house soffits replaced at £6,000. Our son moved into a flat about a year ago and ran out of money so we have just paid for his boiler repair (Expansion vessel replacement) at £290 and replacement of two windows at £1,600 and he has had to contribute to the cost of his soffit replacement at £600.

Our boiler is nearly 30 years old and has kept going, I dread to think of the cost of a new condensing boiler and all the associated problems.

trebor13/12/2017 16:58:07
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These new fangled boilers won't last long, you could say there like a race horse , highly strung compared to a good old cart horse that will last years laugh

onetenor13/12/2017 17:01:52
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Bad luck ! Our boiler was installed in the property the year before we moved in (2008) but wasn't used as the old lady that lived here went into care. It is anA+ condensing boiler with individual water and heating temp controls. We pay a monthly BG home care package that covers boiler, white goods. electrics, roof, windows and door locks ,plumbing drains and a couple of other odd bits.This is because of my condition at present. I can only shuffle at present so have to have this cover. They are very good and come out to us quickly in light of the three of us being invalids.. A bit pricey but worth it. The only other heating we have is two oil filled rads. Not nearly enough if the boiler goes.as I live in the back room downstairs and my son and wife in the front

Nigel R13/12/2017 17:19:01
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wifes car, clutch gone taking gearbox casing with it, £1k, assorted small things breaking / wearing / going out of spec, all at once on my car, resulting in an £800 MOT, lost our dog in RTA, £300 excess on insurance for vet fees trying to save him, tumble dryer died, £300, wife out of work for a few months, £Jesuswept.

If only things did just come in threes!

On the plus side, our boiler is completely user servicable, I sweep the chimney, brush the dust out the blower, oil it, service complete. And we're all healthy and happy. For which much is to be said.

cymaz13/12/2017 17:34:44
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Car went on for a service. I went to pick it up after work. As they drove it around the front.....

  • ​Clutch went....grrrrrr

I know it’s only one thing but 3 bits had to be replaced fist

trebor13/12/2017 18:00:28
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Don't talk to me about women and clutches, mine couldn't tell she had a problem with the clutch and kept driving it only to have it explode. I feel for you Nigel R thinking

Percy Verance13/12/2017 19:08:48
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Bob

Worcester Bosch Greenstar here Bob, fitted after the old British Gas boiler finally went belly up. I'd taken out a service/repair plan for £200 or so when we moved here 4 years ago, and I called British Gas out about 5 times in the first year alone. New parts were fitted on each occasion, but it still seemed to go wrong a few weeks later. At the end of the service contract, the renewal cost had (unsurprisingly) more than doubled to almost £450. It was at this point I decided to go with a new boiler. British Gas wanted almost £3000 to supply and fit a Worcester boiler. I bought one myself for £1300, and paid a Gas Safe registered plumber to fit it for me at a cost of a further £400 or so...... I chose the Worcester boiler purely after reading the Which report on boiler reliability. The Worcester came out top with Vaillant a close second.......

A nice bonus is my reduced gas bill. smiley

Edited By Percy Verance on 13/12/2017 19:12:23

John Tee13/12/2017 22:58:34
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Vaillant boilers are good when they work. Price of spares horrendous ( when I last worked on one before retiring 9 years ago)

John

Tom Major13/12/2017 23:31:41
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Had an accident back in May, head on collision with SUV. My bike, ZX6R F2, totally written off. Then I got replacement, CBR600, was fine for few weeks and engine decided to pack up. Now got little 125, already started to struggle. On top of that I still feel the crash in my neck and back.

Just want this year to be over, had enough smiley

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