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Drones being used for nefarious deeds.

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Paul Marsh13/12/2017 17:54:21
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42341416

Edited By Paul Marsh on 13/12/2017 17:54:37

cymaz13/12/2017 18:38:25
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Just seen this on the news...!

Dane Crosby13/12/2017 19:07:51
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Could be a strong excuse to ground us all?

Percy Verance13/12/2017 19:50:08
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Don't think so Dane. Vehicles are used to commit crimes every day, but there's no mention of banning them. To anyone with a brain, it's plain to see it's a tiny minority criminal element using drones to get stuff into prisons. I'd say it may not be too long before someone comes up with a workable solution. Low power jamming facilities in prisons perhaps?

The Army used the very same solution in Northern Ireland in an attempt to thwart those whom were building explosive devices and using radio control gear to detonate them.......  

Edited By Percy Verance on 13/12/2017 19:55:00

Don Fry13/12/2017 20:00:38
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Twelve bore, shooting magnetised shot. That ul do eee.

At the drone I would point out.

Tom Thomas13/12/2017 20:21:12
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Posted by Dane Crosby on 13/12/2017 19:07:51:

Could be a strong excuse to ground us all?

sarcastic 2

Andy Meade14/12/2017 14:01:59
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Posted by Don Fry on 13/12/2017 20:00:38:

Twelve bore, shooting magnetised shot. That ul do eee.

At the drone I would point out.

Until you realise there's very little ferrous metal in a "drone". Not sure how the steel barrels of the shotgun would cope though.

Don Fry14/12/2017 15:04:14
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The magnets in the motors. One piece in a moter and down she comes. And you don't need a Perdey to hit a drone.

Cuban814/12/2017 15:29:49
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Posted by Dane Crosby on 13/12/2017 19:07:51:

Could be a strong excuse to ground us all?

And clear the airways for the bad guys.......................................angry

Pete B - Moderator14/12/2017 15:35:08
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Posted by Don Fry on 14/12/2017 15:04:14:

The magnets in the motors. One piece in a moter and down she comes. And you don't need a Perdey to hit a drone.

I think that idea has about as much chance of success as squirting a garden hose at a passing drone and hoping it will go rusty.....teeth 2teeth 2

Pete

ps - You won't need a licence for a hose either....!

Edited By Pete B - Moderator on 14/12/2017 15:35:53

Andy Meade14/12/2017 15:36:08
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Posted by Don Fry on 14/12/2017 15:04:14:

The magnets in the motors. One piece in a moter and down she comes. And you don't need a Perdey to hit a drone.

No, probably not. Slightly "off topic", but using a firearm to purposefully damage someone else's property is a criminal offence, and very likely to end in at least the person behind the trigger losing their SGC, and quite likely for them to get a stint inside. Not a great idea overall!

Pete - just not when the hose ban is on laugh

Edited By Andy Meade on 14/12/2017 15:39:01

john stones 114/12/2017 15:42:05
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How about enough officers to patrol the grounds properly, nothing new in stuff being thrown over the fence.

Don Fry14/12/2017 16:00:40
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One with a shotgun perhaps. and Pete a riot hose is very OTT, never get it up the gap tween inner and out wall of a prison.

But you are quite right, and I need reeducation. The correct course, as these chaps have an interest in aviation, is to change their goals and ambition, with a a 2 year air transport pilots course, free of charge to them of course.

Steve J14/12/2017 16:25:41
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Drones being used smuggle things into prisons was the subject of a question in the Commons earlier this month.

**LINK**

The Under Secretary of State at the Ministry of Justice said:

"The organised criminals who use drones to smuggle drugs and phones are a major threat to the stability and safety of our prisons. We are taking decisive steps to tackle that threat through joint intelligence-led operations with law enforcement agencies to identify and disrupt the individuals involved."

"My hon. Friend is right to highlight the importance of not just stopping contraband coming into prisons, but stopping the organised crime networks that are behind that. The specialist staff in our regional and national intelligence teams are transforming the way in which we work with the police to that end. We have launched Operation Trenton, in which a specialist team of police and Prison Service investigators will work together to intercept drones and track down the criminals behind them. So far there have been at least 17 convictions related to drone activity, and those convicted are serving about 50 years in prison."

Steve

Don Fry14/12/2017 17:22:05
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Your Lord and Master the Under Secretary of State for Justice, is talking through his backside. This is a long standing problem, alongside other longstanding problems. Given the number of employed police officers and prison officers continues to fall, as it has done for quite a few years now, there are problems that will not go away any time soon.

And a special operation is a traditional ruse to get some publicity, without too much effort, or result.

I accept I am a cynic.

Edited By Don Fry on 14/12/2017 17:22:36

Martian14/12/2017 18:01:36
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It's a shame that an enterprising nefarious business is cut short after all that investment in cutting edge technology and what was the breaking strain of the phishing line

Edited By Martian on 14/12/2017 18:03:00

Steve J14/12/2017 18:51:40
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Posted by Percy Verance on 13/12/2017 19:50:08:

Low power jamming facilities in prisons perhaps?

If memory serves, there is a jamming system at Guernsey prison.

In my opinion, detection and tracking is much better solution than jamming. It is better to catch the people involved than have them being free to look for another solution. Similarly, IMSI catchers are a better solution than cell phone jammers.

Steve

Don Fry15/12/2017 07:36:36
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I used to be a crime scene examiner. I reckon, if you captured a drone, and didn't mess the evidence up, ( the biggest if), I could collect samples to identify the users.

Dave Bran15/12/2017 08:52:17
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I'm going to Tweet Mr Trump and suggest he starts a "stop recycled to death old stale news" campaign, as that is what SO many closed forum etc threads on drone banning/regulation/etc are now.

Of particular note though is the regular likening of UAVs to cars not being banned/regulated to death, so why leisure UAVs? REALLY??

Society clearly feels it requires cars/transport vehicles, but leisure model aircraft are NOT an item that is required for society to operate, no matter how much we love our sport. End of..................................Move on, nothing to be able to influence here. wink

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