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Bob Cotsford18/03/2018 13:17:05
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I doubt the the engines are AGC management's main concern when it comes to getting processes up and running at the new site. Jon has frequently explained that he is a one man band working as a bit of a sideline to the main precision engineering business.

Jon - Laser Engines18/03/2018 18:37:21
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Bob has hit the nail on the head.

My list of priorities after the move is as follows

Get the 70, 80, 100 and 155 back in stock
Return the 180 to production/stock
Finish the development/construction of the pre production batch of petrol engines and get them out.

This is as far ahead as I can plan as each of these has an unknown lead time on its completion.

Things will be finished when they are finished and at that time I will be able to move on.

While this will no doubt displease many, the alternative is for me to lie, take your order and give you an unrealistic lead time that I have no chance of meeting. I choose to say it like it is.

As I have said before nobody is more unhappy with the situation than I am. If I had everything I need and 3 more staff members I wouldn't be in this position.

I would like to draw this to close as we are off topic for this thread. if anyone would like more information I can be contacted on 01442 249505 from 8am tomorrow.

Don Fry18/03/2018 19:28:43
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Jon, don't get upset, or annoyed. It happens. Shift the mills and lathes. Don't answer the phone, it's only a bot, or a second hand double glazing salesman.

Tom Sharp 218/03/2018 19:57:04
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I have before me the May 1984 edition of RCM&E. In the said mag there is the introduction of the new Laser 61 Four Stroke, a new venture by a company called A.G.C. engineering.

After details of the company and product it says that the company has a DOE grant for further product developments and it is stated that sales in the UK are at present direct from A. G. C.

So we have always had to wait. cool thumbs up

Percy Verance18/03/2018 21:29:20
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Tom

I have an old copy of Aeromodeller Magazine, and in it there's a National Championships report. The (then) winner of the UK control line Championship was a Mr. N Tidey.........

Chris Walby21/03/2018 21:09:23
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Advice please?

Just sorting out the tank vent line and have noticed that where I would normally fix the forward facing tube/vent it will be obscured by the spinner as I normally attach it to the lower engine mount bolt on a P clip.

Bearing in mind it would sit inside of the cowl is this a good idea or should I just fix the vent to the outside of the cowl?

What does everyone else do?

Ron Gray21/03/2018 21:28:23
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Outside cowl facing forwards.

Jon - Laser Engines21/03/2018 23:50:11
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Posted by Ron Gray on 21/03/2018 21:28:23:

Outside cowl facing forwards.

Yup.

Don't over think it though, often our customers get very concerned about it but it really is the simplest thing. As long as its pointing forward in the slipstream you are ok

Alan Gorham_22/03/2018 00:00:50
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Jon - why no mention of the 120 in your previous post about engines to get back into production please?

Jon - Laser Engines22/03/2018 08:35:17
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Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 22/03/2018 00:00:50:

Jon - why no mention of the 120 in your previous post about engines to get back into production please?

The 120 wont be back for a while as we have no crankshafts.

When we last made a batch of crankshafts we didnt make any 120's as we were intending to discontinue the engine. We then changed our minds but the deed was done and so we have now run out of cranks.

As its not economical to set the machine to run off only 50 cranks it will have to wait until we run the whole lot. This isnt likely to be until the summer.

As the 120 is our least popular single cylinder engine getting the other engines back is a much higher priority.

Ron Gray22/03/2018 08:37:55
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As a matter of interest Jon, which is the most popular one?

Engine Doctor22/03/2018 08:44:10
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Hi Jon . If people get upset because of your move ignore them and let them spit their dummy out of their pram . Do what you have to do and move on . Not being able to get the latest Laser instantly isn't a life or deathsituation as some seem to think it is. Good things come to those that wait !

Good luck with move and hope it goes smoothly.

Guvnor22/03/2018 09:10:22
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Posted by Engine Doctor on 22/03/2018 08:44:10:

Hi Jon . If people get upset because of your move ignore them and let them spit their dummy out of their pram . Do what you have to do and move on . Not being able to get the latest Laser instantly isn't a life or deathsituation as some seem to think it is. Good things come to those that wait !

Good luck with move and hope it goes smoothly.

Nobody is 'getting upset', 'spitting dummies' or treating it as a 'life or death' situation.

I simply politely asked when the notice had been placed on the website.

I asked for a rough guide to timescales, I can wait for a laser, but it would help my planning to have a an idea when they might be available.

Why is that so unreasonable??

There will always be customers who are happy to wait an undetermined time to buy a Laser, and there will be those who won't.

Laser is a commercial business, and like JR, it can 'ignore' it's potential customers at it's peril...

Ron Gray22/03/2018 09:27:59
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@Guvnor - as per Jon's post above, why not give him a call rather than post on this thread as this is now off topic?

Guvnor22/03/2018 09:33:08
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Posted by Ron Gray on 22/03/2018 09:27:59:

@Guvnor - as per Jon's post above, why not give him a call rather than post on this thread as this is now off topic?

When I'm back in the country I will. I was simply replying to Engine Doctor's post.

Timothy Harris 122/03/2018 10:17:41
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I must say it’s interesting the 120 was the least popular one. (I don’t own one ). My collection is 3x80s, one 100, one 155 and one 180. I would guess the 80 or 70 is the most popular as they go well in 1:8/1:7 Warbirds and quite a number of sport planes which are of “practical “ club size. Jon mentioned here some time back about a potential project for a long stroke 120. That would be nice and might go very well in the popular 20cc sport and scale planes. I must admit I was “blown away” by the performance of the 100 in my P47. That is long stroke motor so would be great to see what a similar 120 would do. Obviously new projects are miles away now and factory relocation is the main task.

Edited By Timothy Harris 1 on 22/03/2018 10:29:53

Jon - Laser Engines22/03/2018 10:31:04
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Guvnor, i sent you a pm a few days ago with additional details on the situation. I can see its still unread, it might answer a few of your questions. If you would like to call me please do as this thread is not the proper venue for that discussion.

Regarding engine popularity the 80 and 155 have been arguing with eachother about who is the most popular for the past few years. The 70 and 100 are in hot pursuit with the 180 not far behind. The 120 sits forgotten at the bottom of the sheet.

Part of this is due to us usually recommending a 100 or 155 in place of the 120. There is nothing wrong with the 120, in fact the 120 is a lovely engine in the right model, its just that by its design its not as versatile as the other two and if someone is looking for a 120 class engine the 155 is a better choice. Its the same physical size as our competitors offerings but has more power, more torque, will turn bigger props and is not much different in terms of price.

The 120 is best suited to something like a cap, extra or pitts etc. Its also good in models where you dont have enough space for the taller 100 or 155 so it often finds a home in the Brian Taylor warbirds where it works really well.

Guvnor22/03/2018 10:56:52
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Jon - Thank you for the PM, I hadn't realised it was there, and strangely I didn't get an email announcing it. Many thanks for taking the time to talk.

I'm sorry this has come back up, I simply replied to Engine Doctors earlier post.

Thanks again, case closed...

Bob Cotsford03/04/2018 13:28:32
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What's the latest retail price on a 160v? I'm thinking of breaking my Macchi and want a guide price for selling the 160v in it.

Jon - Laser Engines03/04/2018 13:40:54
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Do you have the radial mount version Bob?

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