By continuing to use this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more
Forum sponsored by:
Forum sponsored by CML

Chris's Vicomte 1916

... aka the Baron 1914 or the Svenson Vicomte 1915

All Topics | Latest Posts

Search for:  in Thread Title in  

Robert Parker11/01/2018 22:29:19
avatar
692 forum posts
958 photos

Hi Chris,

Just read through your build blog, certainly an interesting project and some excellent cut parts.

Watching with interest.

By the way I would go for ailerons, based on personal experience. I recently built a Etrich Taube by Balsa USA, this was my first three channel model in nearly 20 years, took a bit of getting used to, I ended up coupling the rudder and aileron channels so both work the rudder just to aid the old mind, and a few hairy take offs, now I'm used to her traits and she is great for those calm summer days and gentle flying, if I can remember that far back.

dsc05728 (800x533).jpg

Regards

Robert

McG 696912/01/2018 19:40:45
avatar
1764 forum posts
758 photos

Thank you both.

I’m really impressed by the kit as well, Andy. Very nice work that JVM delivered indeed. And even if it’s not really your ‘cup of tea’, please just pay a visit once in a while. yes

It’s certainly not a model as ‘interesting’ as your mega Dornier, Robert. angel

But then - as a first one for me - I just have to make a prudent start with ‘balsa bashing’, I guess.

Regarding 2 or 3 axis - funny that you RC guys call it 3 or 4 channels - the main idea was to have some kind of revival of the Svenson kit of the seventies. Well, at least, that was the original aim of José and his friends.

Of course there are a lot of 'more recent improvements' to integrate. But, if I build a 4 channel first, I’ll probably never go back to a 3 channel. As I answered to Martyn, “let’s walk first before running”. The standard wing is less complicated to build as a first one but I’ll surely go to an aileron wing as well. Or just maybe I’ll build another Vicomte with the experience of my first one.

Also for me, the main thing is ‘building’ at this time, not flying. Since last late summer I only had a few ‘buddy flights’ with the instructor, so projectively, flying the Vicomte will have to wait, I’m afraid.

On a side note my Volantex Trainstar trainer is still in perfect condition. wink

Hakuna matata

Chris

BE - BRU / CTR Axis vs Channel Control

john stones 112/01/2018 19:51:23
avatar
8965 forum posts
1399 photos

No wood being glued yet then ? here's me beavering away on mine n getting hurry ups. wink

John....where's gluing control.

Steven Shaw12/01/2018 22:19:40
avatar
194 forum posts
99 photos

Pretty sure Chris showed the building of the vertical tail in his Ballerina build blog.

McG 696913/01/2018 19:37:44
avatar
1764 forum posts
758 photos

No, John. Sorry but, no wooden bits from the kit glued yet.  blush

But don’t let that be a valid reason for you stopping “beavering away” with yours.

Yesss... Steven is absolutely right - one extra house point there - regarding the vertical fin and rudder but the bits I used then were from the scrap box, not from the kit.

When I used to have a spray solvent/foam issue with my Bella, I turned away from it by having a try with some balsa lamination as a few Ballerina builders had done as well.  

2174_fin__lamin_dry_900.jpg

A 6mm ply core, a few 2mm soaked balsa strips and a start made by using the ‘glue-less’ or 'wait for drying' method.

That choice was given by the fact that I wouldn’t glue the first balsa layer at first but to wait till the ribs were in too. That way, I can create a kind of ‘tenon & mortise’ joint instead of a standard butt joint.  yes

2183_fin_outlines_900.jpg

Following the red lines added to the drawing, I took the choice of using a triangulation for the ribs instead of the original parallel ones.

2192_fin_glued_900.jpg

… and finally, the tail bits waiting to be lifted from the board for a sanding session.

Hakuna matata

Chris

BE - BRU / CTR Lamination Control

Edited By McG 6969 on 13/01/2018 19:41:39

Robert Parker13/01/2018 19:45:48
avatar
692 forum posts
958 photos

Hi Chris,

That's some impressive bending you've done there yes

Regards

Robert

McG 696914/01/2018 12:11:09
avatar
1764 forum posts
758 photos

Thank you Robert, but as the Vicomte really offers some 'huge' tailplanes, the bending really isn' t that "impressive".

In fact, I fully enjoyed to try it out and I'm looking forward to finally start to put the other wooden bits together.

Still a few things to organize and fix in La Grotte and I can have a go soon now.

Hakuna matata

Chris

BE - BRU / CTR Fix Control

McG 696914/01/2018 21:36:51
avatar
1764 forum posts
758 photos

Hello to all again,

I had a very productive session at La Grotte today, with the last preparations made to start the build.

The scrollsaw got reviewed, some basic tools received an 'update', some new ones were 'created' as well...

Some pics to follow tomorrow, so stay tuned , gents...

Hakuna matata

Chris

BE - BRU / CTR Upgrade Control

McG 696915/01/2018 19:31:11
avatar
1764 forum posts
758 photos

Hello everybody,

Here are a few of the improvements I made for La Grotte before starting the Vicomte build.

027_scrollsaw_900.jpg

Since the beginning of this ‘silly’ adventure, I had my scroll saw installed on the workbench, resulting in quite a lot of vibrations even with a cushion of felt layers at the bottom. So, I decided to make a separate wheeled caddie for it. Scrap wood, a tick cushion of Styro padded with parcel tape and a removable tablet held in place with (unglued) wooden dowels. When the grey top sheet with the saw is lifted away, a closed box appears (the depth of the clear planks) to become a ‘hidden’ vac-former when finalized. angel

032_sanding_ block_900.jpg

The ‘bench sanding device’ (?) was also modified to receive an adjustable ‘angle sander’ with basic settings for sanding at 30, 45 and 90°. yes

035_triangle_stock01_900.jpg

This ‘thingie’ is not supposed to get maiden or even glide, but it was real fun to assemble with some scrap ply and a styrene corner profile. question

039_triangle _stock02_900.jpg

… and this what it’s used for. Just to cut perfect triangles from a square piece of stock wood and it even works to bevel or to cut dowels lengthwise in half…

047_pins_cutters_900.jpg

I really got envious when reading build blogs from The Musketeers - aka The Real Balsa Bashers - regarding those splendid Graupner pins. Even at nearly a quarter of the price of the Vicomte kit, I had to break the bank. blush

I also gave my Scalpel #11 an update. Apologies to all those magnificent surgeons all over the planet and I’m very probably the only one in the world, but I always found that the scalpel wasn’t very comfortable to handle. So, a dowel half cut lengthwise on both sides of it (see the still unnamed ’thingie’ above) and a length of heatshrink tubing gave me a better ‘feeling’. I also added the black silicone ‘handle’ saved from a deceased ball pen. wink

Left are a few small bottles of glue to be filled and we - as Gaston is finally back from holidays - should be ready to go…

Hakuna matata

Chris

BE - BRU / CTR Progress Control

McG 696916/01/2018 19:24:54
avatar
1764 forum posts
758 photos

Hi to all,

An early decision was made to have some wood bashing at La Grotte today.

I started to prepare the bits for the horizontal stab as it seemed the ‘easiest’ part to start with. I sanded away the ‘carbonised balsa skin’ at the laser cuts and started to dry fit the bits.

But I had to leave for home early as I wasn’t really feeling fit. The LotH was already home from work with the same symptoms. A fever feeling, flu and coughing like hell - well in my case it sounds more like ‘barkling’.

We really are blessed with an exquisite climate here in BE, so apologies to all for not showing any wood bits.

Barkling matata

Chris

BE - BRU / CTR Flu Control

All Topics | Latest Posts

Please login to post a reply.

Magazine Locator

Want the latest issue of RCM&E? Use our magazine locator link to find your nearest stockist!

Find RCM&E! 

Email News - Join our newsletter

Love Model Aircraft? Sign up to our emails for the latest news and special offers!

Latest Forum Posts
Support Our Partners
Wings & Wheels 2018
Slec
Expo Tools 14 July
CML
Airtek Hobbies
Overlander
Gliders Distribution
electricwingman 2017
Sarik
Advertise With Us
Latest "For Sale" Ads
How has your building graduated?
Q: Did you start with ARTF and move to building from kits or vice versa?

 Started with ARTF moved to building from kits only
 Started with ARTF moved to building from plans only
 Started with ARTF moved to building from kits and building from plans
 Started with building kits or from plans and moved to ARTF
 I only build from kits or plans
 I only build ARTF
 I only build from kits
 I only build from plans
 Other (Please specify in thread)

Latest Reviews
Digital Back Issues

RCM&E Digital Back Issues

Contact us

Contact us