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RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 16:04:16
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Hi

New here so bare with me. I'm ok at flying but hopeless when it comes to the tech/knowledge/installation stuff. My dad was a legend at this but never passed it on to his dim son. So, can anyone point me in the right direction please.

I need basic installation diagrams for large scale sailplane which will be powered by up and go system. My servo use will be:

2 per wing aileron/1 per wing spoiler/1 per wing flaps/2 for elevator/1 for rudder/1 for gear retract/1 for wheel brake/fan retract.

Throttle control

I would like servo protection/redundancy/backup etc and pref a servo with stablization...yup

diags to include battery installation for rx/servo and motor.

Any help is really appreciated.

I have searched for days on the net but cannot find anything.

Percy Verance13/01/2018 17:20:34
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Hi Ron

I'm not sure exactly what an "up and go system" is. I take you are referring to an electric motor? Also from your post I get the feeling you don't fly with others?

Not quite clear what you mean by servo protection? Could you expand here? I don't think there are any servos with stabilisation. If you need stabilisation, usually referred to as a gyro, then you would need to buy a dedicated unit which plugs in between your existing receiver and servos. There are also particular types of receiver with integrated stabilisation, but these are available only with a handful of radio brands, usually Spektrum, Multiplex and Frsky. There may be others I'm not aware of.

From what you're describing Ron, you're going to use a good number of servos - probably almost a dozen.

It's difficicult to give a *one size fits all* type description regarding the installation of all the gear you mention without knowing a lot more about the model itself, or what your budget is. Sorry I can't be more helpful Ron, but that's about the measure of it.........

As an afterthought Ron, I'm wondering whether you'd be better off gaining some radio installation experience on a simpler/more basic model, as there is the potential to get it very wrong with such a complex model if you're less sure of what you're doing.

 

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 13/01/2018 17:30:59

Denis Watkins13/01/2018 17:36:59
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Don Fry13/01/2018 18:43:51
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Ron, I second Percy. That a lot of work, and money being launched. It ain't a vehicle for experimentation of installation skills. Get a competent guru.

Listen this time, as you missed your dad's advice first time round.

Frank Skilbeck13/01/2018 19:47:55
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Ron, 1st off what radio system are you using, it might be better asking other users of that system to help you with the set up. I've just helped a fellow MPX user set up his glider with the up and go system on a slider, crow braking on the "throttle" stick and camber flaps on a 3 position switch, but what we came up with was specific to that Tx (MPX Royal Pro 16) and may not apply to your Tx or your preferred control set up.

As for stabisation and redundancy then you may be looking at something like a powerbox Igyro unit or the MPX wingstabi units which work with all radios, or Jeti, Spectrum and FrSky do stablised receivers for their systems.

BTW there's a few guys who frequent the scalesoaring.co.uk forum who have large scale gliders with up and go systems.

RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 19:48:38
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Thanks guys. I'd happily pay to get a guru to install for me, but I'll need to know what I'm getting. The diag above is awesome thanks and a start to my learning experience.

RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 19:51:42
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Percy. Thanks for the reply. I've fitted basic radio into arf gliders before without a problem. i'm just v new to the more complex layouts, ie multi ailron servo etc. My error with the stab servo, I meant rx with stab.

RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 19:55:05
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Thanks Frank. More good info. I intend to use Frsky Horus X12 so the info re the stab units is excellent thanks. I won't need crow braking as I have spoiler and will mix aileron with flap. I'll check out the Scale soaring site thanks.

RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 19:59:31
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Posted by Don Fry on 13/01/2018 18:43:51:

Ron, I second Percy. That a lot of work, and money being launched. It ain't a vehicle for experimentation of installation skills. Get a competent guru.

Listen this time, as you missed your dad's advice first time round.

Ha, he (dad) didn't pass on the advice because I was too busy flying the real thing and not really interested at the time, but now the time has come to take the leap from arf stuff, that I did my apprenticeship on last year, to the proper rc sailplanes. Sadly he's no longer with us otherwise I'd be all ears. I shall heed all advice from the experts here that's a given.

Don Fry13/01/2018 20:07:40
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Ron, get a guru. Post where you are, he/she/ indeterminate may be a mile away. Gurus don't necessarily charge money. The joy is to see the thing fly is enough. The, I helped with that moment.

Edit, define real.

Edited By Don Fry on 13/01/2018 20:08:49

RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 20:44:11
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Thanks Don. at the moment I'm in North Yorkshire (East side Yorkshire Moors) uk. Soon moving back down South to Suffolk.

Ron Gray13/01/2018 21:50:27
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Ron, moving to Suffolk, you’ll be welcome at our club, the Bury Model Flying Club, **LINK**

Lots of help available from a very friendly bunch!

PS website is being redone, so current one is a temporary one!

RON FAIRBROTHER13/01/2018 22:25:16
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Hi Ron. Very kind thanks. I'll look you up. Can you accomodate a powered 6m ventus ok at the site.

Ron Gray13/01/2018 22:56:22
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We have 3 sites any of which can handle that beast, as 2 sites have full size light aircraft operations and the other is an RAF base which is our main site for jets.

Rich too14/01/2018 07:11:40
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Hi Ron, have you tried the Flying Giants website? Great resource for the big stuff.

Frank Skilbeck14/01/2018 08:55:33
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Posted by RON FAIRBROTHER on 13/01/2018 22:25:16:

Hi Ron. Very kind thanks. I'll look you up. Can you accomodate a powered 6m ventus ok at the site.

Ron, yo do realise you left one servo off your list, the tow release for aerotow laugh

RON FAIRBROTHER15/01/2018 16:44:12
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Posted by Frank Skilbeck on 14/01/2018 08:55:33:
Posted by RON FAIRBROTHER on 13/01/2018 22:25:16:

Hi Ron. Very kind thanks. I'll look you up. Can you accomodate a powered 6m ventus ok at the site.

Ron, yo do realise you left one servo off your list, the tow release for aerotow laugh

Ha, no, no, no. I'll stick to my own power thanks. So when I muck up I only muck myself up.

RON FAIRBROTHER15/01/2018 16:45:14
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Posted by Ron Gray on 13/01/2018 22:56:22:

We have 3 sites any of which can handle that beast, as 2 sites have full size light aircraft operations and the other is an RAF base which is our main site for jets.

Which base do you use. I was at Marham for 5 years. I'm guessing you're using Honnington?

RON FAIRBROTHER15/01/2018 16:45:35
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Posted by Rich too on 14/01/2018 07:11:40:

Hi Ron, have you tried the Flying Giants website? Great resource for the big stuff.

Nope, but will give it a go thanks

Frank Skilbeck15/01/2018 17:10:00
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Posted by RON FAIRBROTHER on 15/01/2018 16:44:12:
Posted by Frank Skilbeck on 14/01/2018 08:55:33:
Posted by RON FAIRBROTHER on 13/01/2018 22:25:16:

Hi Ron. Very kind thanks. I'll look you up. Can you accomodate a powered 6m ventus ok at the site.

Ron, yo do realise you left one servo off your list, the tow release for aerotow laugh

Ha, no, no, no. I'll stick to my own power thanks. So when I muck up I only muck myself up.

You are missing out, and I must admit aerotow is now my preferred choice for maidening scale gliders.

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