owners thread......
| Olly Giles | 06/07/2009 20:48:50 |
246 forum posts 14 photos | Just lookin around for a small fighter that i can buy on a budget of £100. This caught my eye, looks good but would like another opinion. Anyone know of any other artf warbirds of a similar size (.25 glow and eqv leccy)?
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| Ben Mullins | 06/07/2009 21:13:15 |
850 forum posts 51 photos | erm . . .
the GWS Range |
| Olly Giles | 06/07/2009 21:15:22 |
246 forum posts 14 photos | good idea
Edited By Oliver Giles on 06/07/2009 21:15:34 |
| Gemma Jane | 06/07/2009 21:22:42 |
1349 forum posts 53 photos | The E-Flite Sea Fury is a fantastic model, but I didn't complete mine on a budget of £100. I guess one could but with the recommended battery and 450 motor it is something a bit special and that all adds up cost wise.
I'm certainly going to building more GWS kits in the future.
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| Olly Giles | 06/07/2009 21:35:00 |
246 forum posts 14 photos | i am really attracted to the sea fury.concernd abit about the number of servos i will need to run off the esc. lots of servos = big esc = big cost. Anyone bult one with a BRC set up ie. the wasp motor and esc?
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| David Ashby - RCME | 07/07/2009 06:23:40 |
Moderator 9692 forum posts 1265 photos 729 articles | A BRC power set will be fine Oliver, have you seen Shaun's huge EF Sea Fury build thread? (look in build blogs )
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| Olly Giles | 07/07/2009 19:39:25 |
246 forum posts 14 photos | Thanks david. I have seen that BRC do their wasp motors, would one of them fit on the same mounting as the park 480 or 450? I know eflite have a bad habbit of designing their models around their overpriced motors and esc's. |
| Frank Skilbeck | 07/07/2009 19:45:51 |
1759 forum posts 60 photos | I've fitted mine with my AXI 2217/16 goes very well, the mount on the plane should accept a fair range of motors in this size range and it's fairly easy to adjust the mount position to get the prop in the right place.
I must rty some of the GWS planes though. |
| paul@scc | 08/07/2009 11:13:11 |
| 164 forum posts | Posted by Oliver Giles on 06/07/2009 21:35:00:
i am really attracted to the sea fury.concernd abit about the number of servos i will need to run off the esc. lots of servos = big esc = big cost.
You could keep it a 3 servo set up and hand launch/belly land. But I must admit it's nice having the retracts and rudder operational.
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| Olly Giles | 08/07/2009 11:33:32 |
246 forum posts 14 photos | I have just read the review from RCME september 08 and he used a 40A esc with retracts and rudder and a park 450 yet eflite rreccomend a 60A esc!? Is their reccomendation abit ott or is that what 6 servos and a large motor pull? |
| David Ashby - RCME | 08/07/2009 12:06:21 |
Moderator 9692 forum posts 1265 photos 729 articles | He (me) did Oliver and yes E-flite have it wrong. You don't need a big motor in the Sea Fury and the ESC size depends on what the motor draws but 60 amps is waaayyy too big for the 450 for which E-flite suggest a 20-amp. Nothing stopping you using the 60-amp if you can squeeze it in of course. |
| Tim Mackey | 08/07/2009 13:10:53 |
| 20203 forum posts 244 photos 16 articles | Oliver, the main current rating rating of the ESC is not really connected at all with the number of servos used - this is limited by the onboard BEC function of the speed controller which is sepreately rated. many of them will indeed only handle up to 3 or 4 servos, and your best bet then is to use either a separate battery or a separate UBEC device connected to tne main battery. |
| Olly Giles | 08/07/2009 14:53:34 |
246 forum posts 14 photos | Would this be ok with retracts and rudder dave? |
| Tim Mackey | 08/07/2009 15:07:52 |
| 20203 forum posts 244 photos 16 articles | How are you proposing to power the retract servo Oliver...because if they are mechanicals, then I strongly advise against powering them off a 3A ESC BEC - a separate battery is always best, as this diagram below. |
| Tim Mackey | 08/07/2009 15:09:15 |
| 20203 forum posts 244 photos 16 articles | |
| Bruce Richards | 08/07/2009 15:10:28 |
1849 forum posts | That ESC only has a 2A BEC. This underrated for what you want. You should be looking for an ESC with 4A or greater BEC. |
| David Ashby - RCME | 08/07/2009 15:21:51 |
Moderator 9692 forum posts 1265 photos 729 articles | 200 watts will be fine. There's no room for a separate receiver batt though and you don't want the extra weight so forget that option.
I've flown the model for a year now on a normal ESC, 6 micro servos and Futaba 2.4 without a hitch. You're going to ask me what ESC I used and I can't remember and the unit is buried in the nose out of sight but the current handling wasn't a concern at the time although I know others have employed voltage regulators for peace of mind. Best get a decent ESC IMHO and keep it simple. The retracts shouldn't bind and you'll fly on elevator/aileron 99% of the time.
Still goes like a rocket and like all Sea Fury's (so a man who has built several, of all sizes recently told me) prefers, and seems to fly better 'fast' to anything else.
Edited By David Ashby - RCME moderator on 08/07/2009 15:24:00 |
| Pete B - Moderator | 10/07/2009 00:19:50 |
Moderator 3790 forum posts 475 photos | Looks like the motor Oliver is considering is oos at present. I'm fitting a Sea Fury out at the moment and have used this motor which appears remarkably similar!
I'm matching it with a Jeti Advance 30a ESC and a 5v/3a UBEC as I'll be using six servos.
It's reassuring, David, that you've not had any problems without a UBEC. To make sure the retract servos do not bind I was intending to mix them on 2 channels on my Optic 6 - but nothing's easy, is it, as you can see here!
Pete
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| Pete B - Moderator | 21/07/2009 00:41:36 |
Moderator 3790 forum posts 475 photos | .......Yet another Sea Fury I'm afraid, folks! After much recent head-scratching, I've finally maidened it this evening. This one has a Giantcod SP 2217-9T 950Kv, Jeti Advance 30a ESC with a separate 3a UBEC (as I'm running 6 servos) and a 3S1P 2200mah 20C Li-Po. Although the published weight range is 710-850g, mine has ended up at 880g with 44g of lead in the nose. I've got the ESC and UBEC well forward so perhaps the 9g servos may have made a difference? On the Wattmeter, the standard 10 x 8 prop showed 169.3 Wp, 15.19Ap and 10.86Vm. I haven't tried any other props as yet - to use the spinner with my motor, which has a 3mm shaft, I need thin props and I'm a bit short of them at present out here. There have been some comments about the plastic underwing covers not fitting well. I trimmed the velcro pads for a better fit, CA'd them in (not together!) and, after rubbing down the moulding nibs, I painted the inset part of the wing surface and servo wells with Aeropoxy. This has given a much better surface for the double-sided tape to adhere to and the preparation seems to have paid off. I still needed a few spots of CA along the leading edge of the panels, though. So to the flight. Well, I have to say that this was my first flight with a low-winger since 1982-3, so there were sweaty palms! Having taken a few pics for posterity and being on my jack out here at present, I set up the camcorder to make some sort of record. I wasn't expecting much from the video and I was not disappointed! To be honest, once I'd taken off I forgot all about it. Anyway, being totally shameless, I thought I might share it with you. It has to be one of the least useful attachments ever placed on this forum but it records the survival of the model to fly another day! It's just as well I have a sense of humour - and you'll need one, too! That's the trouble when you've learnt how to use things like Youtube - you just have to keep using it, don't you? Anyway, thoughts on the flight. Trimming-wise, I made no adjustments as it seemed about right. The motor was much noisier than those in my other models - could this be prop noise? I must say it sounds a bit of a brute - just like the full size! There seemed to be a lack of thrust although it climbed well enough - could anyone suggest a better prop size for my power setup? I do seem to have a few amps in hand but I'm not looking for speed. Pete |
| Tim Mackey | 21/07/2009 10:16:18 |
| 20203 forum posts 244 photos 16 articles | Thta was good video TBH Pete...and not the easiset of flying sites to negotiate either - so well done. As for the noise.....it does sound a little "rattly" dosnt it, but of course hard to tell on that clip TBH. As for power etc, you could try going up an inch in diameter, which will show more watts, and also improve the thrust without affectin speed much....looked plenty fast enough to me I have to say.... scale speed is the aim surely - not pocket rocket stuff. |
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