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Big Bandit24/12/2011 23:01:08
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Hi Tony,
 
Yes it does follow a figure of eight, through a hole in one of the surfaces, then through the hinge gap between the surfaces, then though the opposite hole in the other surface, back through the hinge gap and so on. Some people tend to go through the same holes again in the opposite direction so the tread looks as if it's a continuous zigzag, but apart from aesthetics it's only other function is the thread stays tighter as you work along the hinge. I tend to pull the thread tight and drop a dot of cyano in the hole locking the thread almost instantly, and i do this as I go.
 
I have to say it's the most free hinge you can get, either way the surface will just drop under it's own weight, with no binding what so ever.
 
Have a good Christmas,
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Danny Fenton24/12/2011 23:39:03
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it is an excellent hinge, just be careful if you go over with a coat of dope to seal the holes, any thread in the hinge gap will restrict it , don't ask how I know
Cheers
Danny
Big Bandit24/12/2011 23:58:56
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Hi Danny,
 
Your hinging looks neater than mine, did you thread through the hinge gap then go round again to get the zigzag.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Big Bandit28/12/2011 06:01:24
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Hi All,
 
Now the festivities are over for a while it was time to do a bit more. so first off I hinged the elevator the same as the rudder. Mark out on tape, drill.
 
 
And sew, just the elevator horn to fit now.
 
 
I also managed to cover a fuselage side. this I've just doped.
 
 
I must say the Flair nylon that Ive brought isn't the same as the stuff I found in the loft, that I do remember buying from Modelcraft in Leicester when they first opened in 1975. The weave in the new stuff is much closer and doesn't take so much dope. It seems to be drying out OK though.
 

It just looks too white compared to the rest of the stuff I've covered so will have to tone it down with some of my old dodgy dope. There's also some trim to go on yet and that will help. It just goes to show the differences in the same product and how it can change over the years.
 

It's still not sticking down properly at some of the edges either, but it's not too much of a problem, a lick of full strength dope will see to that.
 
 
That's it for that session, I did try to upload the photo's yesterday evening but the whole system was too slow, probably something to do with shared bandwidth. Even one photo at a time failed and I checked my broadband speed at 27.1/2 meg , upload 1.1/2 meg so it's fast enough at my end. I'll try to get more done today, but I have to do some shopping so it won't be a lot.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.

Edited By Big Bandit on 28/12/2011 06:04:51

Big Bandit28/12/2011 17:30:28
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Hi All,
 
Shopping done, and guess what for . I've just brought all of the balsa for the Sharkface. £17 quid and that will do three of them at least , got two motors ready just need to find another , Ohhhh there's about 20 in the spare bedroom , I'm sorted.

Any road up time for another session.

Cover the other side of the fuselage. just the same as the first side, full strength dope and wick thinners through the nylon to reactivate.

 
Another little job while the dope dries is to seal the fuel tank against the bulkhead, for this I use general purpose silicone clear is good , but I have only have the blue flange sealant from the bike. It will do the job OK.
 
 
This is to stop gunge finding there way into the RC area of the model and to hold the tank in properly.
 

And check the engine fits on it's mounting plate. into the fus This one needs a bit of trimming to give the spinner a bit of clearance but otherwise OK. Notice the clearance for the throttle arm which is essential.
 
 
Check it with a prop and spinner. Jobs a goodun and I'm happy.
 
 
And the other side done. So the fuselage is not far off complete, more dope, trim, throttle linkage, a mod to the undercart mounting and it's done.
 

So it aint far off, and tomorrow it's clear the building board down and a general tidy of the shed. If I can I'll get to Punctilio Model Spot for some colour trim and do some more. In the mean time I'll start the Sharkface now I have the balsa sorted as I cant be bothered sorting through the shed for my stock.
 
Anyone viewing thanks for the interest and please feel free to comment, ask questions, give advise, criticizes.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Anthony Billings28/12/2011 17:44:12
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That is looking really good Chris, and your build blog with it's good explanations, photo's and tips is going to prove invaluable when I start my build.
Keep up the good work.
 
Tony
Danny Fenton28/12/2011 18:24:30
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looking really good Chris, one criticism, not very diesely that thar engine
 
Cheers
Danny
Big Bandit28/12/2011 20:25:05
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Thanks Tony, hope it helps and can we expect a build blog .

Cheers,

Chris.
Big Bandit28/12/2011 20:57:38
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Hi Danny,
 
I'm hanging my head in shame and half expecting Steve with a rolled up KK hand book round to give me a good ear bashing , I have managed to get some proper 6BA nuts and bolts though . Hope to get the Sharkface started tomorrow as well, and to redeem myself the motors I've sorted are these .
 

so it'll have to be the cox .

 
Now I'll have to change the prop for a KK with large sharp finger biting flash on it .
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.

Steve Hargreaves - Moderator29/12/2011 11:09:13
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Don't worry Danny/Chris...I am keeping an eye on things through the mince pies & the sherry..........
 
The nylon covering...the ancient dope...the 6BA bolts......at the side of these the lack of a diesel engine is quite acceptable.....why I'd even be happy with an electric motor....well maybe not quite but it is the season of goodwill to all men after all.....
 
Is that one of your Mercos Chris....the 29 perhaps?? A suitably ancient & indeed period engine....
 
Carry on the good work Chris.....
 
 
Anthony Billings29/12/2011 11:26:09
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Hi Chris,
yes there will be a small build blog, but sadly will have to wait till I get home from this trip, currently off the coast of Brazil laying oil pipe, and before you all say lucky sod, it's peeing it down but slightly warmer than home. Should get home around then end of Jan so providing the list of jobs is not too big from SWMO then I will be able to start the build, I can't wait, it will be the first build I have done for donkey's years.
 
Tony
Big Bandit29/12/2011 13:29:27
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Hi Steve,
 
Just cut all of the stuff for the Sharkface and gathered up all of the other bits, It's got to be the Cox with the diesel head for this one. I'll post the pici's later and do a bit of a mini blog. This afternoon a mates coming round and I have to get to the shops, so it'll be later this evening.
 
Yes it's a Merco 35 that I got from a guy on the forum and I've just rebuilt it and fitted a new head, runs just sweet.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Big Bandit29/12/2011 18:07:38
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Hi Tony,
 
Don't envy you that job mate, just do not like being out at sea. My daughter on the other hand has already done her off shore bosuns ticket a few years ago, she had a few mates at Thames Water who were into sailing and one had a yacht, I'd sooner be at 3000 feet in a glider.
 
Just have to hope SWMO doesn't present you with too big a list, from the job that you do it sounds like you need lots of shed time when you get home.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Anthony Billings03/01/2012 23:11:23
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Hi Chris,
any pics of the finished article yet? I noted on another thread that you had started the sharkface.
 
Tony
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator04/01/2012 00:35:24
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Just as it was getting to the good bits he gets distracted!
 
Seriously nice work Chris! As always!
 
BEB
Big Bandit04/01/2012 03:28:37
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Hi Tony,
 
Yes, with the running about to do over the festive period and all of the other family duties a small quicky seemed a good idea, where all of the jobs take very little time. It's now about finished, so will be back on the Super 60 this weekend. I'll get the elevator connected up and the throttle linkage done, motor in and plumbed up, and the undercart fixing blocks in, UC on ready for applying the trim.
 
Seriously enjoying building this one.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Big Bandit04/01/2012 03:35:16
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Thanks BEB, will be back on the case this weekend, I'm pondering which trim to apply coloured tissue or nylon doped on or mask off and spray, just not too keen on spraying with the humidity as high as it is at the moment.
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Bob Cotsford04/01/2012 12:40:14
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Spray, Chris? SPRAY?
We never had sprays back in my day, coloured tissue or brushed Humbrol colour dope with period-authentic brush marks was what we had if we were lucky!

Big Bandit06/01/2012 21:54:44
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Well, had a bit of shed time today now the work for the week is behind me, now the Sharkface is done it's back on the Super 60.
 
The first job was to drill the UC for holding screws, I just didn't like the idea of elastic bands holding an undercarriage on. The thought of the thing coming loose on a landing and taking the rear fuselage out doesn't appeal. I prefer self tapping screws for this job, and if they do get ripped out on a heavy landing, just change em for bigger ones.
 

Drill the 1/8 uc mounting plate in the fuselage to suit.
 

I've also cut a 1/4 ply plate to sit on the existing 1/8 plate, and glued it in place with 30 min epoxy.
 

Fit the UC and it's that job done. I need to get to the supplier tomorrow for some 40mm long 3.5mm HT set screws, and nylock nuts. 6BA just doesn't do this job.

 
Tomorrow it's fit the motor properly and sort out the throttle linkage, but for today it's time for a night cap, then get some Z's in.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Chris.
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator07/01/2012 10:24:29
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Chris...I use M5 or M6 nylon bolts screwed into captive nuts for this sort of job......adds a sort of weak link if you like without ripping the floor of your fuselage away!!!!
 
Obviously 3/16" or 1/4" Whitworth bolts would be more suitable but a tad difficult to find these days....

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