ARTF Riot chat thread

Hi Chris,sorry you've got problems,i changed my servos after 30 flights or so because one was giving me problems and i had a couple of quality ones hanging about.have you checked the servo when bypassing the little pcb as i've heard they can be temprimental,failing that i would give Century a buzz as i've found them very helpful

Hi Twister, yep tried that it is the servo at fault, i took it out and will post it ti Century and see what they say, worth a try !

Regards

Chris.

Just put one together, servos look of poor quality so decided to replace them.

How do you get the wing servos out?, with the screws removed they are still solid, looks like they may be glued in.

A good model spoilt by poor quality items, servos, props spinner

John

What can I say. I bought myself a Riot before I went away for Xmas. But on unboxing to start the assembly 7 days later, I find that the metal rod that joins the two halves of the elevator is binding against the stabiliser. The rudder also binds up against the tail end of the fuselage quite heavily, plus, the rudder is 2mm off centre compared to the tail!! That means that when I try to install it, the tail wheel sits 20 degrees off line with the fuse when the rudder is straight!!!

The servos do look cheap and cheerful, and one aileron servo appeared to be jammed, but moved ok when I powered up to bind a new reciever and set up the failsafe.

Also part of one side decal is peeling at the front. Sorted it with double sided tape.

As this will be my trainer plane, all this malarkey is pretty disappointing. I had a sort of go back in the so called summer, but never got to fly anything for more than 2 mins. All my solo efforts turned into lawn darts.

Offset rudder and tail wheel.

The rudder is 0.5mm out at the top and probably 3mm out where the steering wire engages for the tail wheel!

Edited By Chuck Plains on 30/12/2012 16:58:44

Sorry guys been away, John,if i remember it took a tug to break free but i tied a wire on first to pull back through,

Chuck,it seems the wire hasnt been bent to the right offset to the rudder,also the rudder being out of line to the fuse is the same as my first one but my last one was fine,only option is to reglue the hinges in line.

Hi Twister, yes I realise that I could have bent the tail wheel wire to suit, although it was perfectly straignt in itself. The irony is that I bought this even though I've proved I can build a scratcher that flies without issues, even though I can't fly it properly myself. :D But I dropped the tail and rudder assemly into the shop today, and they will get me a replacement ASP. Weather is terrible at the mo, so no worries.

The prop is a bit slack on the collet too, as mentioned by others. So I picked up an APC version, which is too shallow for the new style sipinner mount, so I need to either get a different collet, or, make up a 20mm dia 2mm thick spacer. Not my lucky day.

I'll see if I can build myself a tiny indoor trainer. I have balsa, 3mm and 6mm foam.

Hi Chuck, i had a look for my old tail wheel which you could of had but cant place it. My motor seized and was replaced then the new one seized and i swapped it for a more powerful motor,check my old posts.

I know what you mean with the weather, I just got one of these.http://www.brchobbies.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_167&products_id=755

yet to be built but hopefully great inbetween showers or indoor.

Only just seen this thread. I bought my Riot at Cosford from Inwoods and so far I must have had around 200 flights with it in all winds. As I like to do a few touch and goes each flight that could be about 800 landings. I love it.

Mods? It went together really quickly. I was 'just looking' the evening I got it and before I knew it, it was assembled. I set it up as per instructions and, as others have said it's very mild.

1: I couldn't get my 2200 3S LiPos into the battery box because they'd already got Velcro attached for other models and the box is simply too shallow. So I removed the lid, added Velcro to the bottom and a couple of Velcro straps and it's been like that since.

2: It wouldn't spin, so I removed the steel weight (replaced with a bit of wood to support the foam) and moved the battery back as far as possible and it spins like a good 'un. I also increased all the control throws and it's now easily capable of the 'B' schedule - if only I could perform them skillfully enough to pass

3: With all the landings I do the 3mm bolts acting as axles eventually bent and I replaced them with high tensile cap heads and have had no further trouble.

I think that's about it.

Duration is about 8 minutes of aerobatic flight with 2200 3S batteries and 10 minutes with the 2650s I usually use. It's my model of choice if it's blowing hard and flying backwards is fun. It still has the original servos, motor, speed controller and prop. I could do with a bit more zip and the airframe would easily carry a bit more because it's so sturdy. It's also the model I put in the car every time I go flying.

Geoff

Crikey! That's well priced for a plug and play! All that gear included for less than £70, very nice.

Fitted the replacement tail and rudder, so that's sorted. No one turned up at the flying field who could train me last Sunday. ( excessively misty and got worse ) But now I've found one servo is borked! It was locked when not powered up, but moved and allowed the ailerons to be centralised. But now the action is reduced and inconsistent. Feels like gears are partly damaged. :¬(

LMS is ordering a replacement.

Plus I've noticed that the elevator halves aren't exactly in line.

Edited By Chuck Plains on 11/01/2013 19:14:03

I may get to fly my Riot for the first time later today, but the ESC is beeping continuously as soon as I power it up. Freshly charged Lipo or partly charged, makes no difference. I've changed nothing since prepping it for flight two weekends ago. I need to center the replacement servo so that I can set up the ailerons.

Strange, the beeping has gone since I removed all the servo connections to the receiver and reconnected just the esc.

I am not particularly happy about this toy plane. £132 spent, and two issues before I even get off the ground. Plus, there is no guide to setting up the ESC. I don't really trust factory settings until I've verified them myself.

Curses.

Ironically, this is just confirming my preference to build stuff myself.

Edited By Chuck Plains on 20/01/2013 10:52:58

As a rank beginner, I may have damaged the servo myself during transport. (it has been suggested)

Flew my Riot today, my first sustained flight of any plane. Another club member took her up for me and then I took the sticks. Seemed to work just like the Easyfly3 sim that I've used a few times, though that shows a plane that is very similar to a Seagull Boomerang. Mark said it flew nicely and he put in a few stunts etc. But both she,and I, flew well. Well, I flew anyway. And she went back in the car in one piece. So in more than one respect I'm well pleased.

BUT, the ESC is not treating the lipos too well. He landed after she went into cruise mode, and the pack was checked showing 0% !!!!!!! And after my flight of about 5 mins plus about 1 min with Mark at either end, the lipo showed 5%! And that's without going into cruise mode! That's too low for comfort, especiallr for a beginner like me!! So now I have to email Century fo advice about their ESC settings. I've seen some factory settings mentioned online when I was searching for set up info on their site. But I want to set it up myself. I've already set up a JR brushed motor ESC which is now installed in an EASY Pidgeon. It was relatively basic, but you just follow the bleeps.

Hi

Mine had it's 1st flights today - fine for us as a trainer / follow-on

Niggles:

> When 1st arrived rudder was poorly hinged but replaced immediately by Century UK

>The plasic wheel bolts/axels are way too weak

>The motor sometimes just stutters and sometimes spins ok

This worries me and I'd be grateful for advice about this

Ken

Hi Ken,

Hmm, that 'stuttering' is called cogging. Click on this thread on The Toyz Forums for explanations. (basically it's info for RC cars ,but you can get some idea fron it) It indicates some kind of imbalance between the ESC and the motor.Unfortunately the Riot ESC has no setting data available, I already checked, and have sent mine back to Century for checking, although that was for a different issue.

Oh yes, you could try swapping two of the motor wires around. Apparently it doesn't actually matter which of the three is connected to which, so it's something to try anyway.

I replaced my axles with 4mm bolts and drilled out the wheels to match. (try to keep the drill straight, I didn't succeed too well! )

Edited By Chuck Plains on 05/02/2013 00:07:44

Edited By Chuck Plains on 05/02/2013 00:09:36

Edited By Chuck Plains on 05/02/2013 00:11:48

Hi Ken

I had the same issue and found the bearing had gone and was snagging on a magnet which was proud of the others.Century replaced no problem.

Hello All,

I am now the happy owner of a Riot, having just completed the build which was not too stresfull considering Im a complete novice ( prop assembly was different to the manual so a visit back to model shop was necessary).

Problem is that I have 2 new 2200 batteries, an overlander and a Gens ace both of which are too big - deep for the battery box when velcro is used. Should I cut the battery box to enlargen - dont really want to, or find slimmer batteries - I think that these are about as slim as 2200s come ?

Thanks for any help.

Paul

Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 05/04/2013 07:05:29

If theyre a snugish fit without velcro then dont bother with it, wot4 foam e`s etc dont need it and theyre more or less the same

Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 05/04/2013 07:05:44

Hi Paul

I'm helping a novice at our club with a Riot, he has a pair of Multiplex 2200 which fit fine (but are not cheap), my Turnigy's are way to fat and my Overlander just squeezes in. If it were mine I'd set to with a scalpel but I understand your reluctance and I'd recommend talking to folk in your club before doing anything drastic.

For alternative batteries try

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=240&LiPoConfig=3&sortlist=&CatSortOrder=desc

Or

http://www.giantshark.co.uk/cell-lipo-battery-c-1_114.html

Check the dimensions and you should find something that will fit.

I've got to admit I was surprised how slim the battery bay is on the Riot, a small flaw in an otherwise great plane!

Good luck

Steve

Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 05/04/2013 07:06:01