Is this the end?

Anyone seen this? How long before big brother decides that we're all a security risk, and bans model flying altogether?

I think your over re-acting a bit, they cant "ban" everything just cos of a few Idiots around the world

You could also say most of them carry bombs in backpacks, why not ban backpacks

They make bombs out of cars, lets ban cars

One had bombs in his shoes,

You can aparently make bombs from fertalizer, lets ban that too

if you ban something you only stop law abiding people from doing it

using explosives to kill people is already banned and this did not stop him so banning a the model he put it in wont make much difference. it is more common to put a bomb in a car. do you want cars banned too

He looks so dopy that he woundn't know how to fly a model plane. Not to sound racist, but it seems it's always the same type of people who just want to kill each other and not just get on with life - like the rest of us.

Luckely, you don't see any of his type at shows/flying fields, thank goodness.

On the plus side, I did sell a few bits to a nice chap who I met at Northwich - looks like Osama, but quite keen and wants to just fly. Why aren't there more?

Sorry to disillusion you all, but just remember that it was a couple of British nutters with pistols that caused the government to close down all pistol clubs. If we ignore the possibility of a ban it'll be done before we know it. If too many people perceive us as a threat, then the powers that be may well declare that "The good of the majority outweighs the interests of the minority".

theres a gun club in chester ? pretty sure you can shoot pistols in it too

Oh Its actually called the Chester rifle and pistol club, see

Cars, backpacks and shoes are seen by most people an essentials, and they are prepared to accept the risk that they may be used for other purposes. The vast majority of people do not see model aircraft in the same light. If a government wants to demonstrate its determination to be "strong on terrorism", banning model flying would be an easy, non-controversial step. I'm not saying it will happen, but we'd be daft toignore the possibility.

Phil this happened last year, have you heard anything about the even remotest possibilty of any restricitions to model flying, except for large models over london for the olympics,

in my opinion, most people will realise that this idiot was a one off exception and that most modellors are normal intelligent human beings not out to cause any harm to anybody,

Alarmist reactions to a non event like you seem to be having are the cause of things getting blown out of all proportion which ends up in restrictions to people getting on with their own life peacefully

I have read posts on forums calling for models to be banned because a terrorist might use it. My point was that banning models wont not stop a terrorist from using one ( it may make getting hold of the equipment more difficult) In reality a model plane would be a rubbish delivery method for a bomb (some flyers have enough trouble landing in the same field they took of from) the idea makes a good newspaper story but thats about it

Saw this last year, thrown away his life, whata nutter, ban our hobby? dont think so, if the model, with explosives had hit the pentagon, i would imagine the payload would have gone--well--poof

Just remember that MPs are employed by us, they're not the masters. They can be reminded in 2015.

I can't help feeling this is a bit of a manufactured case - entrapment, even. The bloke they've imprisoned would, by all accounts, have liked to harm America/Americans, but seems to have only been capable of doing anything about it when spoon-fed weapons, equipment etc. by the FBI! An idiot? I don't know. He's not entirely stupid as he's a physics graduate - but there again, so am I, so you can draw your own conclusions from that!

As for the firearms legislation that ensures that our Olympic pistol shooters can only practive overseas, that was an appalling piece of legislation brought in by a government responding to pressure from the tabloids to "do something" even if it was the wrong thing. Even the Cullen Inquiry, reporting on the dreadful events at Dunblane had not recommended banning pistols outright. Despite the name of that club in Chester, I can guarantee that the only pistols fired there will be air pistols, "pistols" with very long barrels (so not really pistols!) and muzzle-loaded single-shot pistols.

Getting back to the original story I really don't see anything coming of it. Had he actually succeeded in putting together his mission and actually caused some damage (over and above dislodging the odd brick in the Pentagon wall) then it might cause slightly more concern.

the model would have to a biggun fertilizer is heavy, nuclear stuff is a little hard to get, americans have firecrackers and guns for sale and easy access too; in oz, no fire crackers for sale ever, guns are hard to get and security checks are done before you recieve a gun licence before you can buy one, if you buy a certain fertilizer you must produce identification, drivers licence or similar; If u want to go fishing you need a licence too if the terrorists wanted to kill a lot of people they would use the stuff that we all use (Water)

THe ban on pistols was insane. There is more gun crime now than there was in those days.

The thing that I thought of was this. With a couple of sawn off shotguns and a big box of cartridges another nutter could massacre just as many people or children.

Now, would there be a total ban on shot guns? Of course not, too many of our legislators and upper echelons of society like shooting so they wouldn't spoil their own fun.

I'm with you Phil. I was a handgun owner and shot regularly at Bisley, then the Dunblane incident happened and all the safeguards of democracy went out of the window. The media whipped up a frenzy for a total ban, made outrageous and unsubstantiated accusations against gun owners, and the idiot political parties followed like sheep. So, 100,000 people had their democratic rights trampled over for the crimes of one man. Since then gun crime has exploded proving, as always, that the law-abiding conform and the law-breakers don't, whatever our moronic politicians do. The final irony was that most of my club's members were police officers, many routinely armed at work, but the moment they were off duty they became untrustworthy to own a handgun. Cowardly politicians were also happy for me to protect their interests by carrying powerful automatic weapons as a soldier, but not to allow me even a .22 pistol as a civilian.

The happy ending for me, however, was that the money I got for my guns enabled me to get into RC flying, but I'm continually on edge that such a minority pastime will one day go the way of handguns.

Totally apropros of nothing- why do armed UK policeman stand guard inside the US Embassy? Who pays them to do that? I walked past the other day and got the evils (not sure exactly why) from the two UK policemen armed to the teeth standing outside the front door but inside the inner perimeter.

If the Embassy land is considered part of the US and the US Embassy officials refuse to pay their congestion charge fines etc etc on that basis why are UK policeman providing guard duties on US soil?

Anyway re the OP. It does look like a stitch up, the bloke showed an interest and they fed him enough stuff to convict him. No sympathy though- clearly an idiot.

A ducted fan? Not exactly known for their load carrying potential. The fact if can do 100mph is irrelevant. In the words of Mr T- Crazy fool (quite literally).

I was aware of this and raised it with the BMFA at the March Chairmans conference. The response from the CEO DAvid Phipps was very reassuring - that this was not going to have an impact on model flying in the UK....how our colonial cousins react may be another thing altogether but no doubt the NRA will ride to the rescue of the AMA!

Jon

My dad also used to have hand guns, quite a few and when I was younger, went to Sealand Ranges for a day out. Shot quite a bit, but when the laws were changes, my dad couldn't even sell them and were given to the Police for destruction. Quite a bit of money saving up went down the drain.

Also at Sealand there was/is a model flying club, which in a way lit the fuse for my eventual forey into rc models...

Actually it was the safeguards of democracy that supported, and permitted, the handgun ban. The vast majority were happy to see such a ban, and indeed they supported it's implementation,. It was a popular move.

In the event of a similar incident involving model aeroplanes, one might expect the same popular support for banning a minority interest.

Edited By leccyflyer on 22/07/2012 11:28:00