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Martyn K06/12/2012 14:23:41
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Thanks for stopping by and reading this.

This section of the modelflying web site is dedicated to the promotion, building and flying of F3A aerobatic models from (mainly) the 1960's and 1970's. A fledgling organisation (the UK Classic Aerobatic Association) is being formed for members to pool interests, ideas, plans,and hints and tips. Hopefully low key meetings and competitions will follow.

Please feel free to contribute.

Best wishes

The UKCAA team

Eck06/12/2012 14:37:20
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.....and God bless all who sail in her.....Best wishes for your new endeavour!

BOB GADD06/12/2012 14:40:03
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Hi Martyn.

You may be heading for trouble if you use those initials, it could be mixed up with the United Kingdom Civil Aviation Aurthority, [UKCAA].

BOB.

Martyn K06/12/2012 14:44:03
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Thanks Bob.

I had thought about that, but the UKCAA.org.uk domain name was available so I bought it. There are several aronyms that have double meanings, one I worked with earlier that caused some confusion was the General Teaching Council and Guild of Television Cameramen.

Unless the acronym is trademarked (govt departments by law cannot be trademarked, but you cannot pretend to represent them) then we should be OK... I'll listen out and take advice though.

Martyn

Steve Hargreaves - Moderator06/12/2012 14:51:40
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Just adding a post to follow along Martyn sounds like it should be fun.

I've always really liked the 70s/80/s pattern models......good looking aircraft....

I have to admit when I saw the heading I thought it referred to the CAA so Bob G certainly has a point....

Olly P06/12/2012 14:59:14
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Ditto on the reference. I will have a look and see if any of those pattern ships float my boat....

But given my build list will be a while yet!

Andy Green06/12/2012 15:31:03
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I'm in. I'll have my Curare ready for a few meets next year.

Andy

Bob Cotsford06/12/2012 15:51:01
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shouldn't it be for FAI aerobatic schedule models rather than F3A?

[pedant off]

Now I just need to keep the Tornado, Altair and Marabu in one piece and finish the Blue Angel before the season starts.

kc06/12/2012 15:52:25
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It could be called Classic Aerobatic Group ( or Organisation, Club, etc ) which would not be confusing.

Dont forget thet CAA is responsible for model flying too and is often mentioned in the BMFA handbook which Classic aero pilots will have to refer to. To have similar set of initials would be too much.

Edited By kc on 06/12/2012 16:02:40

Tony Bennett06/12/2012 15:52:53
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Yay

1970's pattern ship here i come. (now i have to find some plans) yet another build. he he he

Richard Harris06/12/2012 15:58:57
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I have a soft spot for the Kwik Fli Mk III, would this count? there is just something about it despite it's boxy fuselage. I have always wanted to have a go at one.

A friend up at the field has a similar shaped model, I think (though I may be wrong) it is called Vertigo? he has a piped Webra 61 fitted from the same era and it doesn't hang around! I will mention this to him Martynthumbs up

Rich

Martyn K06/12/2012 16:03:40
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Hi all

OK on comments and the name. I can see there is some scope for confusion - we may need to have a think about that.

Pedantic mode - all OK - probably my error/ignorance.

From the original post that triggered this we are considering 3 'sections' with cut off dates of 1970, 1979 and 1984, so KwikFlies, Astro Hogs,Curares, Altairs, Superstars are all in. Its the era and technology in place at the time that is driving this rather than any hard and fast rules as far as I am aware.

Above all - somewhere safe where can all play nicely and have some fun with like minded individuals.

Martyn

Bob Cotsford06/12/2012 16:12:09
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Posted by Richard Harris on 06/12/2012 15:58:57:

I have a soft spot for the Kwik Fli Mk III, would this count? there is just something about it despite it's boxy fuselage. I have always wanted to have a go at one.

A friend up at the field has a similar shaped model, I think (though I may be wrong) it is called Vertigo? he has a piped Webra 61 fitted from the same era and it doesn't hang around! I will mention this to him Martynthumbs up

Rich

I think I've got a 40 sized clone, but as it came as a part complete airframe I don't really know:

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Andy Green06/12/2012 16:43:55
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Is the intention to use the technology from said era. I intend to fly my Curare with a modern 4 stroke and computer radio.

Andy

Martyn K06/12/2012 16:48:48
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Hi Andy

I dont think anyone would insist on going back to 27MHz or even transistors. It will also be difficult to get hold of the engines from the era I would imagine. I think that the important thing is to get the airframes up in the air using the build technology that was in use at the time, but then again I suspect that material substitution will occur as well.

Its the spirit of the era that counts as far as I am aware.

(Being very careful here not to define a policy).

Martyn

Concorde Speedbird06/12/2012 16:49:28
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Could there be a list of models which would fall into the correct category? I was not around in the 60's and 70's so I hae no clue!

CS

Martyn K06/12/2012 16:52:39
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Hi CS

Have a look at this site for inspiration..

Martyn

Steve Dunning06/12/2012 18:05:51
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As Martyn implied, I had put some simple proposals in the aerobatic build thread. It is the models that this is all about, with all engines, 2 and 4 stroke OK and electric being OK as well.

I'll put together some proposals as regards schedules but these will be for those wishing to have a light hearted go at competition. As someone mentioned earlier, it is an opportunity for pilots to learn and improve their flying with models that are economic to build and operate, unlike the current high cost F3A models. After being involved in F3A since the early '80's, the era's mentioned were when I and others considered it to be fun, that's what it's all about.

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Richard Harris06/12/2012 18:09:26
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Bob,

That's nice !teeth 2

Concorde Speedbird06/12/2012 18:46:24
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Hmm, interest steadily growing. What is an ideal first one (and a first plan build)? I have a plan for a Sonas 40 but I am not sure that counts.

CS

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