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Walt Moucha

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Masher02/01/2014 18:19:55
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Just on the off chance, does anybody have a plan for this classic bipe?

I think it was reviewed in June 1991 Radio Control Magazine

I have one to restore and it would be nice to get more information on it

Thanks

Edited By Masher on 02/01/2014 18:20:26

Masher03/01/2014 13:23:48
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Well quite a few people have viewed but nobody has responded. I was told that this was a great flyer but having started to strip it down, I see that there is a lot more work than I thought - I think a few repairers have got there before me!

I now have to decide if it's worth saving - anybody any experience with this model?

Percy Verance03/01/2014 14:38:34
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Not one I'm familiar with Masher, and I've been building and flying 45 odd years.....

Any chance of a pic?

Masher03/01/2014 14:48:23
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Thanks for responding Percy.

All I can find on internet are:

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I could take some of the actual model - but it looks very sad at the moment.

Here's hoping you can help

Thanks

Martin

Percy Verance03/01/2014 15:03:00
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Ah right, so a kit then? Still doesn't ring any bells. Pretty though, should fly well.

The way the wording is laid out in the second pic, it reminds me of a Balsa USA or Pica kit.

The only thing concerning me is you saying it's had numerous repairs carried out by more than one person. I now find myself wondering why has it had so many repairs.......

Some bipes I've flown in the past have had the glide performance of a manhole cover. You don't suppose it's one of these?

That name, Walt Moucha. For some reason I'm linking that with the Fly Baby.......

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 03/01/2014 15:06:08

roger graves03/01/2014 15:05:03
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Plan listed here page 21.

**LINK**

john stones 103/01/2014 15:14:08
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60 inch w/span and 7 3/4 lb sounds ok percy

might have been a pilot problem wink

it looks good, just be careful how much weight you add

Masher03/01/2014 16:41:51
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Percy - difficult to say in public but I think one of the owners is a bit heavy handed with the glue pot!

I will continue I think because it has some character about it which is tempting me to do some work!

 

Thanks Roger I will see if I can get a plan. Plans aren't strictly necessary since the plane isn't in that bad a state, it's mostly the engineer in me - I like to have a plan and the documentation.

Thanks

Actually Roger, just checked and the plans are not the Walt Moucha version

Edited By Masher on 03/01/2014 16:44:13

jeff2wings03/01/2014 20:54:43
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You can find a number of Walt's plans on the old RCM site , the model you have may be a smaller sport/scale version of Walt's 1/4 scale Marquart Charger

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nice looking bi-plane smiley some pics of the model would be helpfull

Masher03/01/2014 21:05:24
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Thanks - wish I'd taken some photos before stripping it now! I'll get some tomorrow but not sure they will helpembarrassed

Masher03/01/2014 21:33:47
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Not mine but I've found 2 more pics on the web:

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This is definitely the version I've got. Bit like a Flair kit in construction - ply sides at front and (flimsy) oil rig at rear.

These pics will help me quite a bit

Edited By Masher on 03/01/2014 21:34:42

jeff2wings03/01/2014 21:36:49
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Been there, done that ! lol laugh Looking into it a bit more the Charger II was sport ,not scale , but a nice if a bit porky model that was a good flyer with the larger engine size up front .

No good asking me if it's worth saving if you have seen the basket cases I've rebuilt !crook

Masher03/01/2014 21:42:01
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This one has a Super Tiger 91 in it and supposedly has a bit of poke! I have this urge to rebuild stuff that should probably go in the bin - not sure if it's stupidity or being so tight fisted!

Masher05/01/2014 10:52:17
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Well I've started and hope to finish so here are a few photos of my model.

Fuse is now under control:

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Quite pleased with my planking of the top deck:

 

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And here is a staged complete view, held together with bands and a pair of Val's old knickers:

 

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Ready for Ebay - " I don't know anything about remote control planes but I was reliably informed from some bloke who is an expert that this plane just needs your Rx and Tx and is then ready to go"

 

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Comes complete with all necessary accessories:

 

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On a serious note, please can somebody explain what's going on with the copper pipe around the silencer?

 

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Not easy to show it but copper tube goes round the body and into the exhaust outlet port. Is it something to do with a smoke system?

 

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Edited By Masher on 05/01/2014 10:54:42

Percy Verance05/01/2014 11:01:51
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A smoke system, or at least part of one it is Masher.

I like the Parc Amber silencer. I never knew they did them. I thought they did just the quiet mounts and nothing else.

jeff2wings05/01/2014 11:06:03
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That's right Masher ,pre-heats the oil before injection = more smoke , looking good keep at it ! yes smiley

Masher05/01/2014 11:14:53
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Thanks chaps - I also got a stash of Parc Amber mounts with the Laser's I bought. They are work of art! One set is unopened - probably a collectors item now.

Percy Verance05/01/2014 11:57:49
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Masher

At one time the Parc Amber quiet engine mounts were the mount to use for F3A flyers. And yes, they were superbly made, being were a universal fit mount capable of taking just about any engine. A shame they ceased production.

I have found the current Dubro Quiet mounts to be very good. Well worth a go if your site is noise sensitive. Not cheap, but £40 for a quiet engine mount has to be better than no field to fly in I'd have thought........

I think the biggest problem you'd have with the Parc Amber mounts now would be the rubber bushes Masher. God knows where you'd get replacements if you needed them.

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 05/01/2014 12:00:46

Masher09/01/2014 16:30:39
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I've decided to make this a mini-blog so here's some progress. Terrible weather so no flying but plenty of workshop time.

 

Fuselage completed except for fitting out and now re-covered:

 

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Top wing stripped, repaired and covered:

 

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Bottom wing stripped, repaired and will be covered tonight:

 

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Splashed out and ordered some decals from model markings - these may be helpful in covering up some of the joins!

Just convincing myself to do the aileron hinges with Oracover. Seems best way is to do a bottom hinge with solartex then do top & bottom with final covering which is Oracover/Profilm

Edited By Masher on 09/01/2014 16:32:15

Edited By Masher on 09/01/2014 16:37:36

AP00109/01/2014 17:27:34
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Looking really good Masher, although I'm very disappointed that you have not continued with the Saints colour scheme. Would have sold round here (Northants) for a premium!!

Andy.

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