Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Here we go Does this count as a start ? I have this ready . I have been playing a lot with this. I can start it every time, but sometimes it takes longer than others... More importantly, here's my start Shown along with my new 80 grit aluminium oxide slot cutters A long way to go, don't hold your breath, this may come in fits and starts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Green Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Like your spar slotter Chris. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Some of those would be useful Chris, I'll knock some up. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 DIY spar slotter, I like it CheersDanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 A little bit of progress this evening. Take parts, glue 'em together and suddenly... Same and a bit more to the other one.. ..and suddenly we are looking for something to prop up the dihedral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 cracking job Chris, suddenly you will have a Matador cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Fisher Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Chris, That looks like the single channel radio i started with. I still have the receiver, but the transmitter was among other modelling items which were stolen. Is yours superhet or regen? Mine was the latter so I could only fly when no one else was araound, but it taught me a lot about controlling with bang bang redio on rudder only. Malcolm, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hi Malcolm mine was a superhet but the receiver is long gone. I have installed a magic widget in the transmitter bought form someone who understands these things. It converts button presses into a modern buddy box signal. So the idea is to fly the Matador with my Spektrum gear, but to have the option of plugging this in to have a play at single channel. All the time having the safety pilot able to take back control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 This is it for tonight. Just a bit of centre sheeting and the tips to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Damms Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Nice job on the wing there Chris, have you decided what shesgoing to be powered with? The old Mac Gregor brings back memories, I had a minimac reciever it disappeared along with my AM10 in my mini tyro when the button failed on the TX. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi Lee. Disappeared? Was that a fly away? What a shame.This will be powered with a 1.5cc diesel. It will be as close as I can remember to my first ever RC model. (My second model was a Tyro from a DB kit.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Damms Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi Chris, yes it was a fly away but MacGregor did fix the button under warranty. Back to the Matador I may change the leading edge on mine to preformed, and I think the elevator will be glued on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think that's a wise decision Lee, the leading edge does look very flimsy now. I'm going to be considering whether to swap mine for something a little more substantial while I build the rest.The tail is shown rubber banded on but if this moves at all, trims will change. So I'm wondering what to do there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Damms Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Don't know whether you considered increasing the size of the rudder and elevator but I increased the rudder size from the word go on my mini-super then had to remove the elevator and increase the size a bit to get a more comfortable flair on landing. I also made the tailplane bolt on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 All worth considering Lee. Maybe that's why I started with the wing. I think I have different setup needs when flying with spectrum gear or single channel, but will have to decide sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob T Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 This has just whetted my appetite. I have an original 1960s Mercury Matador kit in the loft that I bought new but never gor round to building. I guess now is a good time to bring it to life. However, now that I am all electric, I guess that I will have to do some modifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Hi Rob, Welcome to the forum, an original Matador kit is worth quite a lot of dosh these days, a Veron Cardinal went for £106 on Ebay a couple of weeks ago. may be better to flog it to a collector and build one from the BB kit at £50. An original new Super 60 kit went for well over £200 a few months back Looking forward to your build blog which ever way you decide to go.Cheers, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Hi Rob, if you do get going on the Matador, original kit or BB, don't forget to sign up for the mass build here and join in the fun! BEB PS Nice progress so far Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Doesn't look much progress does it? But here we have a finished wing.All ready for me to ruin it with a wrapping of Nylon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillyg1 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Chris, I've built one of these , still got it, got a paw 09 r/c in mine standard 3 channel servos. Found I had to put alot of down thrust on the motor.also prop uo the t/e of the wing,& l/e of the tailplane to kill the climb.Flies a treat thou on a calm summers eveing up the local field. Would advise you glue on 2x 1/16 ply plates where the wing bands will cross the trailng edge,so as too stop them cutting in.Covered mine with solatex wing, & fuz, tailplane assy covered with tissue doped, and pinned down whilst drying. the only way I could stop it bowing.Yes mine is banded on tail assembly, works for me little pencil mark where the tip of the rudder meets the fuz, got a 2oz tank fitted which gives me around 6/7 minutes of engine run,nice to stooge around, think they call it R/C assist. cheers Graham Edited By gillyg1 on 01/12/2011 20:22:12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks for all the info Graham. The plan does indeed give two rigging angles for the wing, one for R/c and one for free flight.I've soaked some thin cyano into the wing T/E to harden it up for wing bands. It may still benefit from a bit of ply as you say.How do you think it will go with a 1.5 cc engine then? Hopefully it won't be too much.I have a 1cc tank for it but now you have me wondering about a bigger one... Thanks again.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 A friend of mine used to fly a Matador carrying about 18 oz of radio gear, it flew nicely powered by an old type OS15. At the same time I flew a Veron Skyskooter using a Frog 149 Vibromatic with about 14 oz of gear. The performance of the Skooter was marginal with the Frog but transformed when I changed it for an Enya 09. I think your matador will be just about right with the ED Hornet considering the much reduced weight of modern gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Great thanks Pat. Talking of Frog engines, as a lad I used to really hanker after a Frog 150 but the pocket money would never stretch that far. So guess what appeared in the post the other day? After I "accidentally" won it on ebay.Not a vibromatic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I bet it still vibrates though Chris You will have more diesels than leccy at this rate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well here goes, not one to always do things conventionally (i.e. build the whole model first) I just couldn't wait to get the dope out. I haven't done this for a very long time - and it shows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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