Brian Austin 1 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 You will need to get in touch with Paul Bardoe as to when, but it will be a while yet, as he likes to make sure they are OK, as to there all round suitability, both flying wise and kit quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Wood Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Righto, cheers for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Austin 1 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Look out for the next issue of RC Model Flyer on 13th June, as there will be a free plan for that model with a silly name to some called the Dwarf Bean for electric power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Oh Well done Brian well worth buying the Mag for. What is the wingspan? could it be converted back to IC 15-25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Austin 1 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I think from memory that it is 38" span. Yes it would convert to IC, but look better in electric as there is no silencer hanging down spoiling the lines. A good 20 would fly it OK.Have added a couple pics of the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've finally got around to building this, ive done it in silver aand red with an Irvine 53. I have to say not a great value kit ......if you can call it a kit or should I say wood pack! No I have the problem of attaching the canopy to the top. THe plastic cowl is also pretty awful and is't like what is shown in most photo's of the plane and the instrictions and parts listed within bare no resemblence to what is actually in the kit. I just hope it fliys well like Lee said. If you compare what you get in this kit compared to other british kits they should be ashamed of themselves. Pegasus Models are nearly half the price and are 95% complete kits. (enough parts to beuild the airframe) Also the same applies to Cambrian Models much more comprehensive. Tony H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Sorry for the shocking typos above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Wood Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hi Tony, I built a PB Bean a few years ago but I'm a bit ashamed to say I haven't yet flown it! I attached the canopy with two screws, one at the front & another at the rear, into pieces of dowel. Strips of Solartrim finish it off. It's quite secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnesyboy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 The Bean is a great flying model well worth the building niggles, Its a trad british kit, there is some builder thinking and adaptation required but isnt that half the enjoyment making it your own. Theres enough people that have built and flown them over the years, get it built work through your niggles and enjoy flying a great retro pattern model. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinBrian Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I remember Brian flying a (Green) Bean at a couple of comps in the '70's I think it was powered by an HP40 and remember thinking "God that's quick" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Austin 1 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Posted by FlyinBrian on 13/12/2016 13:18:49: I remember Brian flying a (Green) Bean at a couple of comps in the '70's I think it was powered by an HP40 and remember thinking "God that's quick" Oh dear, you must be as old as me. Yes the details are correct as to the original "Bean" Lovely engine the HP40, shame it used to eat the so called silencers!! It was always one of the nicest models I flew, testified to how many have been made since. Cannot make a comment as to the kit as I have never made one from it, I do know that they are put together by the same people who make the majority of this type of kit in the UK. As a plug my latest is the "Stella Clipper" in Decembers RCModelworld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Guys I have finally finished my Bean, it needed a bit of extra weight on the tail and a bit on one wing. Hopefully it will fly well when I do the maiden flight in the next month or so. It should go like a rocket with my new Irvine 53 up front. Tony H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Hi Guys,Just a quick update. I maiden flew my Bean last weekend and it flew extremely well with virtually no trim.I had many good comments from other club members and a fair bit of interest in my classic kit. It takes off in about a foot with a 53 up front. It can be a little tricky to slow down but an all round great plane once built. I reckon it would handle windy weather fairly well tooTony HEdited By Tony H on 24/02/2017 21:39:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Austin 1 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Glad to see that the Bean/Skyliner performed OK, not that I thought it would not having flown many from my original plan from the early 70's. The addition of weight to the aft end, seems to be due to the modern engines being heavier than the originals used in the 70's in the form of the HP40, which at 10 ounces was very light and powerful. I never knew of one then that needed weight at the back. The landings can be slowed down by cutting the throttle to idle, then coming round applying up elevator till itstarts to sink, then applying throttle to just keep it coming forward. Once you get the knack you will be amazed at how it will slow down for landings. You will find it will not drop a wing that is tip stall. I see on your version that the wing tips are not as on the original in that they are squared off, rather than at the sweep back. Also very few people seem to round off the fuselage corners to get a more rounded shape, which I think is more attractive. Edited By Brian Austin 1 on 25/02/2017 15:51:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Thanks Brian, my kit does have swept back wing tips but you can't really see it in the photos.Also I would have preferred to round more of the fuselage like the original design as I think it looks better but unfortunately the people who produce the kit these days seem to have changed the design as the shape at the front is dictated by the matching up with the cowl which isn't very rounded at all ....which is a real shame aesthetically I did have to laterally balance the plane as one side was a fair bit heavier than the other side. I think this was due to the large Irvine silencer on the 53.I'm not 100% convinced about the strength of the u/c on the wings. I guess time will tell but so far so good.Tony HEdited By Tony H on 26/02/2017 12:56:58Edited By Tony H on 26/02/2017 12:57:19Edited By Tony H on 26/02/2017 13:00:58Edited By Tony H on 26/02/2017 13:02:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Austin 1 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hi Tony Yes the cowel would be a restraining effect on the fuselage section. On mine and others from long ago, the front was all built up from balsa block around engine bearers. The original undercarriage mounting was the result of considerable trial & error. It should be a 1/4" ply plate let into the bottom of the wing. A smaller ply plat is let into the top of the wing as an anchor point. This transfers the load on the torsion twisting effect on the bottom plate, as the height of the wing decreases the load on the bottom. plate. In the early days is was normal for the anchor wire to only go through the lower mounting block, which could and did become loose in the foam wing. Never had a problem using the former method even after lots of touch & goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hi Brian,I did wonder how the original Beans looked so rounded and streamlined at the front with no obvious cowl lines.I like built up balsa nose cones which are then shaped because they look nicer and are very strong.I guess they introduced the ABS Cowl in the kit to reduce the cost and probably some weight too.Tony HEdited By Tony H on 26/02/2017 19:41:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony H Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hi Guys, Just a quick update with some photos and a quick video of me flying my Bean on a foggy day at no more than about 1/3 throttle (otherwise it would get lost in the fog). I was quite tired when I flew earlier hence the dodgy landing. Edited By Tony H on 11/03/2017 22:03:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBaron Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Hello Brian The Bean was a very attractive design. I have not been able to track down a plan. Can you or anyone else help on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 In another thread it's mentioned that the Dwarf Bean plan was in RC Model Flyer July 2013. I found that the Doolittle Media shop website offers the Dwarf Bean plan No 288 for 14.95 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Interesting Doolittle Media Shop | Dwarf Bean 40.25″ Plan288 (adhpublishing.com) also cut parts. I have just bought Rhapsody plan and cut parts from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Cottrell 2 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Hi All Don't know of anybody's still lurking around, but this might be of interest. SMC are doing a sell off of some of their discontinued kits and old stock. Among these is a PB models 'The Bean' kit. Priced at £129.99, which doesn't seem too bad. Not so the Smart Move kit I also noticed. This is an old, discontinued Dave Smith Models kit, and must have been at the back of their warehouse for at least 5 years, probably nearer 10. Despite this, they are asking £279 for it. Did phone and ask if they would accept £225, but they said nothing lower than £250. Too rich for me, I'm afraid. Pity, I'm a big fan of Dave Smith Models. Ho hum Jeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Jeffrey, I read the small print on that kit and it says it's only 43" span so not a standard size patternship, it doesn't seem to come with a cowl and for that price NO Way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Cottrell 2 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Hi Andy That's a puzzle. The other picture on the SMC website shows the kit box, and on the front it says 54" span for 40 engines. Are we looking at the same model? Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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