Jamie sawyer Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 John there is nothing wrong with your colour scheme. I think it looks good. I got an email today that the plan was on its way to me. Fingers crossed its here tomorrow. As a rule of thumb what engine are you guys using ?? Is it 10s ,12s or 15 Ic engines ?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birgir Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I’m sorry for your mishap Kev, good to see it fixed. I would go easy on the EXPO. I tried it on my FF-117 and the experience was something like, nothing – nothing – everything. I had to spend quite a lot of time searching for that model in a nearby stinging nettle field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birgir Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Posted by Jamie sawyer on 01/08/2014 21:44:01: John there is nothing wrong with your colour scheme. I think it looks good. I got an email today that the plan was on its way to me. Fingers crossed its here tomorrow. As a rule of thumb what engine are you guys using ?? Is it 10s ,12s or 15 Ic engines ?? Thanks I´m using a .15, I had from an older model. The CG came out fine without any extra weight. I've only used 8x4 prop but perhaps it can manage 9x4. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Its electric lads a g15 950 kv...motor, claims to be equivalent to 15 i.c using a 10x 6 prop Mine has servo's at rear for rudder and elevator it balances no problem John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Posted by john stones 1 on 01/08/2014 22:57:05: Its electric lads a g15 950 kv...motor, claims to be equivalent to 15 i.c using a 10x 6 prop Mine has servo's at rear for rudder and elevator it balances no problem John I just looked at the G15 motor, I am very tempted to go all electric. I dont have a 15 Ic lying around so need to make the decision on that!! I do have 2 or 3 2200 3s lying about though. I like the idea about the servos at the rear to. No snakes....just direct links to the horns. I'm going to try and keep this one tidy and use transparent film on this one but that may change due to my wonderful building skills ...I'll let you know how it goes and add some pics once I'm getting into the nitty gritty Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 It's an easy convert to electric, just need top decking and canopy to be removable for lipo change. Rx go's where servo are on plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Plan arrived today, 5 stars to a quick postage on that one!!!! Wood list made and ordered this morning.. Formers are in the making as wee type I see what all the talk is about regarding the tail vs wing incidence....plus 1 deg down thrust on the engine former. It all looks a bit strange on paper but onwards and upwards we will go. Clearly it flies and well at that so look forward to progressing on this one. I'll post a picture once it's covered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Fairgrieve Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Posted by Birgir on 01/08/2014 22:37:06: I’m sorry for your mishap Kev, good to see it fixed. I would go easy on the EXPO. I tried it on my FF-117 and the experience was something like, nothing – nothing – everything. I had to spend quite a lot of time searching for that model in a nearby stinging nettle field. I have never before used EXPO, always relying on my sensitive feel. In this case I think lowering the rates will be my first port of call then EXPO. Kev Edited By Kevin Fairgrieve on 02/08/2014 16:54:05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Fairgrieve Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Posted by Jamie sawyer on 01/08/2014 21:44:01: As a rule of thumb what engine are you guys using ?? Is it 10s ,12s or 15 Ic engines ?? Thanks Jamie of my two in the picture above, the older one on the right uses an SC.15 and the newer one on the left uses an SC.12. There is not much difference between the two performance wise. Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masher Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Well done Jamie, I'm sure you'll like it. I think rear mounted servos will be fine - I ended putting a little weight at the tail to balance mine, although I did use a 15 size engine. You've been a bit quick off the mark but I was going to recommend making 2 at the same time because (a) the wood is cheap (b) it's easy to build so you could make an IC and an electric. PS I wouldn't try flying mine without Expo. Even on low rates, this plane is very sensitive (and fun!) Edited By Masher on 02/08/2014 17:00:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm a big fan of Expo Kev......ir's like having dual rates without flicking any switches....go for loads on control movement & then soften it around the centre with Expo.....you get a nice docile feel around the mid stick position but maximum wang when the sticks are in the corners..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 All finished weighs in at 2lb 12 oz I got it ready for Greenacres not John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 there is always next year..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masher Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Well done John, better late than never. Unfortunately, just like me, your model has a higher BMI than it should - unless you increased the span Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birgir Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Congratulations John, have you flown it yet? Mine is 982 gr without fuel so it is probably around 2 lb 6 oz with full tank (4 fl oz) or about 1080 gr. (Sorry I’m not too familiar with pound and ounces). I use 0.15 two stroke, so the difference in weight is probably not that much. Birgir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Mines a not a minijazz lads I drew it up by asking w/span etc. The fuzz is a little longer and tail end a bit bigger. Funds were tight and I thought the plan expensive..(i'm tight ) also bought a Taranis, so I've got to set it up on that, with Gary's help will fly it this weekend. BMI is bang on Masher..i wrote 2lb 12 oz on the plan. Greenacres Iqon i'm hoping to do the weekend next year, felt like I missed out just doing the Sunday. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Thought I'd add a small amount of progress. Theres been plenty pictures etc so I'll keep it basic. Little bit of work on the wings still to be done but all in all I'm very nearly there. Blue and white colours with a splash of yellow maybe. It's just the colours I have lying around. The undercarrage mounting seems awful far forward to me. I was planning on putting a ply reinforced plate just behind the leading edge of the wing. Can anyone see this as a problem ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 For info, mine weighs 0.91kg with an SC15 and 8x6 prop. It isn't overpowered, but it is lively. My undercarriage was made from wire but mounted more or less as per plan - see my build blog. It's fine where it is. No sign of ground looping although its a bit twitchy on rudder on take off as you can probably imagine. Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I just won the engine on Ebay, Os15 un run and still boxed for £35 + post..... Delighted!! Edited By Jamie sawyer on 12/08/2014 12:23:13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Heres the wee os engine I got on ebay This little engine is lovely to look at. I've never had a wee engine like this 15 size. It is tiny lol. All for £40 on ebay. Brand new !!! Perfect for the mini jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It is lovely to look at, and to use Jamie, lets be seeing installed then John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 lol yes that is true John. I'm getting an engine mount from my LMS by the weekend hopefully. Looking forward to getting some fuel through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Well this is my entry into the club, better late than never. Not flown it yet but at least it’s finished. No flying at the weekend so will have to try and sneak an hour in one night if it keeps fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie sawyer Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Very Nice Nev, Here is my one. I've just a canopy to screw on, cowel and buy the U.c and fit it. Decided electric in the end after buying an engine etc lol. Top photo above and a view of underneath below I did fly my one tonight....notice the broken prop ..!! It was very pitchy so I'll be adding a small amount of lead in the nose. CoG is maybe a quarter inch back from where it should be but the 1 minute of flight I had was very much fun. This is going to be a brilliant frost morning hack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Very nice those lads still not flown mine, been setting it up tonight on the Taranis, I can't get my mojo going John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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