Low pass Pete Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Stated today. I had purchased the wood packs and could not find F3 in pre-cuts. Thought I was going mad but it is actually missing from the CNC Sheets. No problem as there seems to be enough wood to build from the plan but really should have been included. Looks to be an omission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C. Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Not opened mine yet but will take a look in the morning. Can't start mine until I have finished covering my current project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 This is my other current Project (Seagull Bucker Jungmeister). Having to juggle which takse priority. This photo was a dry fit and I'm at the point of rigging it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C. Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 No F3 in mine either, not listed but as you say not a problem as there appears to be plenty of 1/8 sheet to cut one out. Going to do some surgery in that area to allow access for the lipo's probably change things around bit. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Well Ballerina build is underway. Originally I planned to use an OS48 but finally decided to borrow an OS52 Surpass from another project.. The 52 is la wee bit longer so elected to shorten the Fus sides at the nose by about 1/4inch to be able to keep things in line with Peter's plan. I an also inverting the engine as this will make the lines a bit smoother and make install easier on the eye. However I expect to make the lower part of the cowl removable (similar to PMs Werewolf plan which I built a while back in 2009). The removable cowl will help with maintenance etc. I have also made the tank access in F2 larger as I expect that the tank will need to sit a bit lower down due to carb being lower down. Edited By Low pass Pete on 09/01/2016 15:09:53 Edited By Low pass Pete on 09/01/2016 15:12:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 O.S 52 eh Pete, poetry in motion, should go well John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Taking shape very nicely! I see you are a "fuselage first" man like myself. I've no idea why really, but I always build the fuse first, then the wings then finally the tailplane. It might have something to do with the fact that of all the aspects of building the one I least like is wings! Which is strange from someone who's built a fair few biplanes in his time! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yes always fuselage first as I like to sort the engine install and servos. Also you can sort out really important things such as Pilot and instruments. I'm also gong for mini-servos on the ailerons as I have some spare at the moment. Peter PS If anyone has a spare OS52 I would love to get my hands on another. They really are good engines. Why on earth did OS cease production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Low pass Pete Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Fuselage progressing. Servo rear stringers are fitted and servo positions sorted'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Wings now underway. This is a trial fit of starboard wing ribs. I bought the CNC pack so progress is fairly easy. I went to Staples and go them to do a reverse print of the wing. (thanks for the tip from one of the other blogs on that, very simple solution when building the port wing). Point noted on CNC parts. the ply doublers for UC block are sized incorrectly. They are too narrow so a mod will be required to correct the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ref CNC error on UC plate see photos below. The doublers (2 off) when positioned for 8swg U/C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hi Guys Your pictures are tempting me towards this traditional build as good work always photographs well. Both the 48 and the 52 Surpass behave superbly, and sound like the real thing, as I still fly both regularly, both bought from new, the 48 I beleive has done 17 years, but put me right if I am remembering the wrong season that I bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hi Dennis The 48 could easily be 17 years old. I have one that I bought 2nd hand possibly 18 years ago. I decided to use a 52 as it was not in an airframe and my 48 was in a small Ripmax Tiger Moth which it suits very well. What is interesting is that my local model shop (Inwoods) say that they have had a run on small 4 strokes such as Saitos. I wonder if this could be related to the mass build? Regards Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Denis Watkins Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Percy and Pete Coincidently with your comments on parts shortage, I was desperate for a new needle for the 48, and found a guy on the common auction site who had many spares, in Canada ! He was very reasonable and so too the airmail. There does, as you say, seem to be a revival in small 4 strokes due to these Mass Builds, as most you see, many have a 4 stroke at the front, negating noise issues to boot. It is difficult to combine a better duo than balsa and an oily 4 stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Have been somewhat busy recently so have not been able to do updates. However here is my progress. Wing is substationally completed with servos sorted and tip nearing completion Here is a shot of wing tip Wing servo are being used. They have inherited some parts from a model that re-kitted itself last year Fuz is coming along now. Progress was held by wing. Used a dummy cut down 1/4 sheet to fill gap when adding and shaping fillets at tail. Cowling area will be next. More balsa dust and shavings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just to add some comment ref wing. I am very pleased how this is turning out. Seems light and strong. Pete Millers method is great. I built a Pete Miller Werewolf a while back and that was great also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony aimer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Guys I am just starting my ballerina here in Johannesburg. Are the wing spars hardwood or balsa? All the pics I have seen seem to indicate balsa but the plan does not call out the material only the size. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Thomas Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Posted by tony aimer on 16/02/2016 05:49:01: Guys I am just starting my ballerina here in Johannesburg. Are the wing spars hardwood or balsa? All the pics I have seen seem to indicate balsa but the plan does not call out the material only the size. Tony Hi Tony. The Spars are 1/4" sq Balsa. Good luck with your build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony aimer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 thanks for that craig Regards tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 hi there Tony Concur with Craig. Make sure however the balsa is hard and not warped. Spruce could be used as an alternative if reqd. My wing uses balsa and looks to be very strong and light. Best wishes and enjoy your build. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony aimer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Thanks I will look among my wood stock for some hard 6mm balsa. I dont really see why a relatively small plane with a deepish airofoil wont be fine with balsa spars. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devcon1 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I agree with Pete it's a very strong structure as per plan and other than an unscheduled arrival I imagine the wings would never fail internally. You build is coming along nicely Pete. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi John Yep moving along ok. Looking at the cowl area later today. The wings are pretty much done and just need final sanding and hinges etc. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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