Andy Meade Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Thanks Harry - I hope it all goes together as nicely as it does in the CAD! That's going to be some "interesting" decal work for you there Dave... Phil - thanks The B24 has been moved to storage in order for me to get this done. Loads of room on the bench for it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Posted by Andy Meade on 12/01/2016 08:53:17: Thanks Harry - I hope it all goes together as nicely as it does in the CAD! That's going to be some "interesting" decal work for you there Dave... Phil - thanks The B24 has been moved to storage in order for me to get this done. Loads of room on the bench for it.. Now I feel so much better seeing this. I have hope. So it is true, I have a workshop to challenge the best (shame my building skill's arn't there yet tho...   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I use the garage for the big stuff though, hehe. The A10 was (infamously) built on an ironing board, so anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 other than pressing your shirts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 ..and that's probably why I look like a tramp in a tie at work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AL_ Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Interesting subject. I'm looking forward to watching the build. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 LoL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Houghton 1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I have a piece of plaster board on my dining table to work on, so Michelle isn't allowed over to my place for dinner when I'm building . I have one foamy build on the go now, a complex (for me) balsa repair next on a F5J thermal soarer, then the A4 project. It could be mid summer before I have to cook for her again! Lol. Looking forward with great interest to see these two birds come together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Cheers Steve I have had some concerns over the operation and construction of the flap canoes. I sketched up a few ideas, and this is what I've ended up with. The flaps operate in much the same way as the full-size, with a hinge at the bottom of the canoes - for me this will be an arrangement of 3mm glassfibre board bonded to a central core of 3mm liteply. The hinge itself will hopefully be a 4mm ball-link with a 4mm carbon pin, and a clevis on the mating part will be glassfibre board. Shown here in the model are canoes 1 and 4 (4 being most outboard), and the flap is deployed. Canoe 3 will be identical to these, but canoe 2 will be where the "magic" happens. There will be two core plates on number 2, with a 6mm gap in between them. This will allow a linkage from a servo to pass through and link up with the rear part of the canoe, close to the pivot, which will give me the required large throw. All canoe cores will be sandwiched in blue or pink XPS foam, then glassed. Flap servo access will be in the top surface, just in front of the spoilers. I have also done some work on the fold-out parts of the landing lights, just for Dave! This will no doubt be a 3D printed part onto / behind which the LED will be mounted, and actuated "out" with a mini servo. Here's the full size item : Oh, and most of my full size pics come from a great walkaround here. Edited By Andy Meade on 15/01/2016 15:42:57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Fantastic work Andy. I think you need to come and teach me how to do CAD! Flap and canoe design sounds spot on, as does the fold out landing light. Please tell me your going to have these as fold outs on yours also!! You know it makes sense!! Not heard anything from 99 yet ! Going to have to build a bigger bow next for he hot wire work!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Dave - I think I will go for it. Lights will be two either side of the nose, two in the undercarriage sponsons, and two on the wingtips.There's also some loading lights in the underside of the tailplane if you wanted - but shouldn't really be on in flight so might be a waste.I'm now contemplating nose weight and battery access. A servo halfway down the fus for the landing lights doesn't help matters, so she may have a large hatch around the crew access door for access. Well, I will - up to you how you skin that cat!Edited By Andy Meade on 15/01/2016 16:29:22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Thanks Pete! Well, here are some images of the 2nd flap canoe, which as you can (hopefully) see, has space in the middle for the flap actuation rod. I have also added a basic shape for the top surface spoiler. I think I should be able to reverse this one into a parking spot with that much brake. That looks like...a lot from the front! And all stowed : I shall model up canoe #3, then that'll be it for CAD modelling, and on with proper modelling this weekend. I have some Sea Hawk wings to cut, then its on with the fin for the C17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Start the clock! So the aim is to get this done for the Lleyn meet, or the September Orme meet - so it can beat up those pesky little (ugly) A4's on the slope. Wood has been marked up and cut out. Spaniel included for scale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 That spaniel will never fly with a section like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 she does try though, bless her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's a dog's life. I think there will be room for her inside the fuselage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monz Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Nice! What ply is that and where from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's just waterproof 4mm ply from the builder's merchants. Nothing special as it's meant to be a cheap aircraft! If that was liteply I'd be bankrupt by now Here is a basic dry build to test former locations are OK for the nose section, alongside the A10 nose : The formers will of course be hollowed out, apart from F1 which will be solid so I can bolt lead plates to it. Edited By Andy Meade on 15/02/2016 21:17:58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Very nice Andy, I believe you said earlier that the fuselage will have a join; can I ask how you manage that? I'm almost at the stage of drawing up the AC130, so could be very useful for me. Cheers Ade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Hi Ade and thanks!The load of the weight and flight forces from the tail section are transferred into the ply structure via 15mm aluminium wing joiner tubes. I did this a similar way on the A10, but there I only used 2. The C17 uses 3 (much more tail area). So the loads are carried by the tubes and the whole thing will be pulled together with wire fence tensioners - again a carry over from what I used on the A10. If you need some pics of how I did that, take a look on the build blog on this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McLaren Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Scary!! How will you launch this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Like a DLG -a quick spin and up from the wingtip weeeeee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Posted by Andy Meade on 15/02/2016 21:39:06: Hi Ade and thanks! The load of the weight and flight forces from the tail section are transferred into the ply structure via 15mm aluminium wing joiner tubes. I did this a similar way on the A10, but there I only used 2. The C17 uses 3 (much more tail area). So the loads are carried by the tubes and the whole thing will be pulled together with wire fence tensioners - again a carry over from what I used on the A10. If you need some pics of how I did that, take a look on the build blog on this site Thanks Andy; just found the pic of the tensioners; know now what you mean. Many thanks Ade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monz Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Posted by Andy Meade on 15/02/2016 21:17:08: It's just waterproof 4mm ply from the builder's merchants. Nothing special as it's meant to be a cheap aircraft! If that was liteply I'd be bankrupt by now Cool, I used 3mm from Wickes (rubbish stuff) on the Imp. Which shop was it from? Want to build up a repository of budget large model building supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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