Capt Kremen Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Can the train enthusiast members among us advise, do modern train rolling stock carriages carry more passengers than in 'BR' days? i.e. 'BR' a separate Loco hauling 12+ coaches (incl Dining Car), Modern stock has 6 (or often less) self powered coaches in total, these running long intercity routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Posted by Capt Kremen on 23/02/2018 18:57:06: Can the train enthusiast members among us advise, do modern train rolling stock carriages carry more passengers than in 'BR' days? i.e. 'BR' a separate Loco hauling 12+ coaches (incl Dining Car), Modern stock has 6 (or often less) self powered coaches in total, these running long intercity routes. They intend to run more of what we call coaches, with a capacity of 66 to 78 passengers, the idea being seated. The dining car obviously has more open space. A 9 coach train would carry in the order of 550 passengers A 5 coach, non diner could carry 230 passengers, but 2 of the 5 units are power cars, so totally inefficient. Long trains will be back in fashion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Posted by Allan Bennett on 23/02/2018 07:55:11: Having been involved in the construction of HS1, I would like to point out that reducing journey times is not the only aim of HS2: Most of the UK's conventional rail network is already overcrowded, with very little scope for the addition of extra trains. To run extra trains, extra tracks will be needed, so they might as well be "HS" tracks. And while we're at it, they might as well be built to European loading gauge so they can accomodate their larger carriages. Hence HS2's oft-unappreciated objective is to free up the West Coast Main Line (and others) so that more stopping trains can be run on them. Whether or not it's still value for money I'll leave to others to debate . . . Fair enough, build track, but why fast. It's expensive, noisy, at least more dangerous. Only the contractors, given a long, fat feast at this trough, like the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Now hang on a moment. The London undergrounds run every one to three minutes apart, so why does there need to be such a long gap between overground trains? The tracks do not exactly seem to be over used to me. If it is a power supply problem then this could easily be overcome. If they can allow aircraft to take off and land with a 45 second gap then why not trains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bennett Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Posted by Martin McIntosh on 23/02/2018 20:45:55: Now hang on a moment. The London undergrounds run every one to three minutes apart, so why does there need to be such a long gap between overground trains? The tracks do not exactly seem to be over used to me. If it is a power supply problem then this could easily be overcome. If they can allow aircraft to take off and land with a 45 second gap then why not trains? Good point! Mainline trains can, and do, run at one-minute intervals under favourable conditions: Speed must be the same, speed needs to be high enough that the first train can get 2 or 3 signals ahead of the following one (i.e. over about 90mph in the area I live), acceleration capabilities need to be similar, no stopping or slower trains in the way, no trains crossing the track to go onto a branch line, etc. Underground trains can run at short intervals because they run at much slower speeds than mainline ones and they're equally matched for speed, acceleration, and braking. Aircraft can take off at short intervals because they're not usually following the same track after they get off the runway, so won't bump into each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Duncan Disorderly Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The Banbury club had to move site at the end of last year... Edited By Duncan Disorderly on 18/02/2019 23:05:38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zflyer Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Well we have just signed the lease for our new site. So currently we have two locations to fly from. http://www.scrcac.bmfa.org for more info. RE HS2 I was recently chatting with a local farmer, apparently he and one or two others are still owed money by HS 2 I am surprised they haven't grouped together to take a 'class action' through the Court. I have also been told, though have no veracity concerning the source, that the Treasury have let it be known there isn't funding for the project and is unlikely to be so until 2030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wilco Wingco Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Scrap this white elephant and put the cash into improving the East West service in the North of England or commuter traffic into big Northern cities. A much better use of time and resources than cutting 20 mins off the journey time into an already overcrowded and congested London. WHY does everything ave to be put into London, there are other cities in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Bercow said a long time ago that this just will not happen. I tend to believe him as he should know. Pity that so many businesses have already gone to the wall because of it, along with houses being unsalable along the proposed route. The obvious place for it should have been the M40 corridor but naturally this was out of the question because it was Cameron`s back yard. No wonder that my local MP David Livington is so anti because it would now go through his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C. Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 When I spotted HS 2 thread I thought it was a new model review not bloomin politics 😱😱😱😈 had enough with Brexit. Can you please put a political heath warning in the title to help us sensitive souls avoid such trauma 😨😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Tough up mate, going to be a hard year. Then this, and the other pale coloured elephant in the yard, Hinckley C, willl run and run, until you are in the grave, or wish you were. Happy flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C. Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I think I am going g to need therapy before all of this is done 😱 either that or turn to drink 🍻👍 wonder what's on special offer at Tesco this week 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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