Des Richards Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Thanks a heap Rusper and Kris1, Have downloaded the PDF as you suggested Rusper and ordered the Plan.A big thank you Kris for offerring to get the mag for me - depending on what happens I may take you up on your offercheersDes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Ireland Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 If I could get hold of a full size drawing in DWG format then I could print it off on one of the big plotters at work. It would make building the wing so much easier! Making photocopies is all well and good but you may notice a slight reduction in size from the original, seen it happen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Moore Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Hi all, I fly of a small patch and was wondering if it would be possible to put flaps on this without to much weight penalty?Any viewsClive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Day Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I intend to build the Hurricane offered in this months RCM&E and would offer this solution to the apparent problems over the plans. Find someone that can copy the plans, I did [ £4.00]. Chop and tape these until you have a complete side elevation. Buy some tracing paper and trace the right hand wing. Turn the tracing over and tape it to the missing left hand side, you might have to highlight the image on the side now facing up. Do likewise to the tailplane then return to photo copy people and spend another £4 and you will have the satisfaction of owning complete plans, I did this when I built the Sky 40 and it worked well. Of course it has to be IC powered if you want it sound like Merlin. Ted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Todd Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Tony,Thank you for yet another excellent model! Is it possible for more information to be provided on the tailwheel assembly? Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Clive - having seen the model I'd say yes, no problem to flaps. Ian, I believe Tony used a simple commercial tail wheel unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Moore Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Ian, You could just use a commercial tail wheel unit....I made one from 12swg piano wire, a length of brass tube as a bearing that fits through the ply spine, and the collet on the end to keep in place. I fix this in to position before covering so I could fit the collet through the fuse stringers.Clive, yes can't see a problem with flaps.... Just a note on the plan layout......yes I agree its not prefect but RCM&E are limited by the paper size (being approx A2) when they offer a free plan..... so I guess chopping about of my original 2 sheet (AO)plan was inevitable.Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubar Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Doug Ireland available on the web is a useful little program available for free on a months free trial called PDF fly you can convert pdf easily to dxf etc quite easily and for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravedan Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 john powles wrote (see)Doug .I traced the plan & got it reprinted in a mirror image & also had it reduced by 15% so I could use a smaller electric motor & battery etc. the cost was for the full size was a bit to expensive on setup. Ah........Snap...........I was planning on doing similar.................is there any way you could help me, saving reinventing the wheel?? Any costs reimbursed, of course............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravedan Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Tony Nijhuis wrote (see)Just a note on the plan layout......yes I agree its not prefect but RCM&E are limited by the paper size (being approx A2) when they offer a free plan..... so I guess chopping about of my original 2 sheet (AO)plan was inevitableTony Tony, Thanks for all your work on designing and bringing this model through to be published, and I fully realise this is not "your" part, but I do feel that plans should either be printed in "ready to build" form OR published in reduced scale but complete form, as it's far easier to rescale a complete plan than to copy everything trying to stay 1:1 and then piece the bits back together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Allum Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 i am seriously considering building the hurricane but only have a limited budget , i know how much cnc pack and engine will cost but what about the rest? could anybody give me any pointers as to where i can get the other building materials from and at what cost.already have electronic components due to sad demise of previous plane, any help would be greatly appreciated jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Jim,If you bought the wood (as listed on the plan) including sheets of 3mm & 2mm lite ply for hand cuting the CNC parts from a model shop you may end up paying around £60. Why not speak to SLEC Ltd (balsa importers) direct, they are a little cheaper than the model shop.Bravedan, Alway a pleasure to know the plan has brightend up someones day.....we sure do need it at the moment...... Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john powles Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Bravedan. I could get another set of prints done the costs are about £8to10.00 or there abouts ,when I did mine I retraced all the bulkheads & ribs etc.so I think that the plan as normal -15% might be cheaper . send a new thread if you are intereted. JOHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Skidmore Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Why not make the full size plans available as an electronic file, (after all, they are supposedly "free" in the magazine)? That would alleviate the problems RCM&E have with paper size, we could print off our own copies and every-one's a winner . There are certain areas of the forum that are for "subscribers only" so if RCM&E were feeling a bit protective, the electronic plans could be restricted to that area. If the intention is truly to bring "traditional building" back to the great unwashed, surely this would be a better way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Allum Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 i have yet to see the plans for the hurricane, but after talking to my dad, i am seriously considering taking it on as a winter project myself ( a little competetion never hurt anyone). Besides, i mite even get to repay him for the last plane he built that i test flew for him ( see jim allum message). It wasnt pretty! what sort of build time would i be looking at. And does anyone have any suggestions on a REASONABLY priced ic motor. And an internal silence. Your help would be gratefully recieved.Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country flier Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 What a glorious plan and model Tony has created. It certainly ought to be one that gets built this winter on the farm here in se Nebraska. I received the special issue on Wednesday (8/10) and quickly opened the plan and article just to get an idea of what I'd be getting up to. About the only question is IC or electric! We'll see which wins out.Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Smith Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 As I have a Hurricane a 40 inch size built from Giles Fowler plan converted to electric, I'm looking forward to getting my copy of the 2008 special issue ( being in Australia they arrive about 3 months lat in our shops). But mean while can some one tell what the electric motor and battery setup was, so I can make some advance buys.Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country flier Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hullo Stuart,According to the data file in the article Tony used a 4 Max PPO 5055 580 with a 70A brushless esc and UBEC with a 5s 5000 mAh LiPo. The prop used is an APC 14x7 e prop. That would equate to around 1000 watts assuming reasonable battery performance and running the esc to maybe 80% of amp limit.In terms of h.p. that would be around 1.35 which is certainly in the .61 IC range.Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walford Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hi Tony Just a query with the plans: should wing rib W3 be made of lite ply as it takes the retract rails along with W4? regards Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes Brian, W1 to W4 should be 3mm lite ply rather than W1 & W4..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Smith Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 My plan arrive today, very nice, but there is no mention of wash out in the wings. I have found that all my scale war birds ( Spitfire and a ME109) require some, any any comment.Also as I wish to use only 4 cell lipos, I'm looking at reducing the span to a maximum of 54 inches, any comments on the appropriate motor would be useful, all my motors come from the Hobbycity site as buying from the UK here in Australia is too expensive Regrds Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john powles Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Stuart. I to reduced the hurri to 52" & I am going to use a emax 2826-06 motor about 700 wattts max I bought from hong kong for £19.00 also a controler 60amp for £22.00inc. post I,ll leave you to work out what that equates to in aussi dollars . it may be worth your while to have a look on the ebay RC sites for these items . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Hi everyoneHave just started building the Hurricane, brought the 4 Max stuff and the woodwork, last time I built from a plan was about 30 years ago. So far so good will add some pic,s later.not sure about the retracts mechanical or air, anybody have any ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Wood Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hi AllIf you install the mechanical retracts before you sheet the wing as in Tony's photos the wire linkage it is easy to acheive , But if you try to put the linkage in afterwards its a bit of a fiddle ! I've just found that out with Tony's 62" Spit !The build pictures are a great help , I wont make the same mistake with the Hurricane.Air retracts dont have this problem as your just running a pipe , but they maybe more expensive once you've bought a pump .Ray Wood Maidstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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