EarlyBird Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 For my seventh build I have this being delivered on Monday. Swizzle Stick I am a fan of the Stick, this will be my sixth but smallest. Easy to build and fly, is the attraction. Should I try IC or stick with electric? I have converted a couple of others from IC to electric without any problem at all. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 A battery should go in the tank bay. As the motor will be lighter the nose could be extended allowing for a bigger battery in the tank bay. As for power, Probably a 3541 1070 motor but confirm that with George at 4Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 What have I bought is it a plane? No it's a 3D/Fun Fly with huge control surfaces. As you can see Sarik included the magazine article. Very interesting! Sewn hinges? I will have to go buy some needle and thread also I should have listened to my mum when she tried to teach me to sew. When I was at school girls did the sewing and the boys woodwork. How things have changed for the better. This is going to be more fun than I was expecting. Anyone want to join in? I could go the whole hog and use IC, now there is a thought Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Maybe Peter could make another but larger Swizzle Stick for electric if he ever runs out of ideas........ perhaps 48 inch span? It might be better if it had conventional hinges though as in my household ( as in most ) my wife does the sewing and I do the woodwork! The world works better when women do the things they do best and men do theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 If you want a bigger one go for my Fan Dancer a full American Fun fly model. Uses less balsa. Use saddlery thread for the hinges. NOTE Do not use fullpower except in the Manouveres or flutter can set in!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I remember the Fan Dancer name but I cannot find the plan listed by Sarik or by ADH. I thought it was probably a Radio Modeller plan with arrowshaft fuselage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 IT was a Radio Modeller plan The fuselage was a boom made of balsa top and bottom members and ply sides. Sarik sell the Smith Special which had a carbon fibre or fibre gass boom.that is still listed as a plan. The fuselage boom could be built as described for Fan Dancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Smith Special looks interesting but I am happy with the Swizzle and can't wait to fly it It only takes eighteen hours to build from scratch and I am cheating with the plan pack so probably a month for me The article is very amusing Peter.. " This one will froth your adrenaline!" made me laugh. I hope it will prop hang. I am like a kid at Christmas Just what I need. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Colbourne Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Posted by kc on 07/12/2020 19:44:58: I remember the Fan Dancer name but I cannot find the plan listed by Sarik or by ADH. I thought it was probably a Radio Modeller plan with arrowshaft fuselage. kc, If you look at the second and third pictures in this Ebay listing and use the zoom function, you can see most of the Fan Dancer plan and the fuselage construction that Peter described: Fan Dancer Plan Edited By Robin Colbourne on 07/12/2020 23:18:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Swizzle looks fun. Couldn't get an easier IC install! https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=7904 Stickit is another carbon boom job. Having a removable wing on a proper fuselage is nicer for us sport flyers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 A great choice of model Steve and it should go together so quickly with the CNC parts. Was that 15 fuselage formers I counted, it doesn't look long enough! Following with interest. Edited By Piers Bowlan on 08/12/2020 06:40:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Incidentally, for anyone looking for something similar but bigger (52 or 58in span) there is Basic 3D from RCM&E, March 2006. Plans and parts here, although the Sarik website says it is 'completely different from RCM&E's published efforts" How so? Edited By Piers Bowlan on 08/12/2020 07:07:48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Basic 3D came in two versions - 1 full span wing, 2 clipped wing by removing wing tips. . The one flown by a clubmate flew better than a Wot4 - if anything can. So a worthwhile plane. The photo shown by Sarik is the very same photo used in the article with number 19 on the fin so I don't know why they comment - could it be there is another plan with same name...... Fan Dancer. I thought it was an RM free plan and I have the magazine and plan somewhere. Not my kind of plane with boom fuselage and the warning not to use full throttle. Swizzle Stick tempted me at the time it was published, but narrowly missed being built when I thought about the small span - too small at 40 inches. Otherwise fine with neat ideas like the rudder chamfer to allow one piece elevator. Dead simple construction. Edited By kc on 08/12/2020 11:26:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The s/h fan dancer plan source suggested by Robin seems a bargain as does the same sellers Bushwhacker plan for 3 pounds including postage. Bargain for somebody as it's 13 pound from Sarik! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The first time I came across Fun Fy was in R/C Report, an excellent newspaper style magazine from the USA (Alabama I think) At the time it was the only place that they flew the classic Fun Fly with its insane manoeuvrers such as Roops which was so many loops and rolls which had to done from take off to landing in about 10 seconds to stand a chance. I bought three Florio Flyer Stunt Wagon kits. One for me, the others for a friend. They were sensational. I let the friend with the second kit fly mine with the firm instruction "Only USE POWER while manoeuvring!" He totally ignored that. The tail fluttered and disintegrated. When he finished his own he flew it and guess what? Old lead fingers flew at full power...very briefly. The third kit went to another friend who never finished it and I have it back minus all the wing parts. Trust me. They are fabulous to fly as intended and make people stand and gasp when flown properly.BUT THAT WARNING IS SERIOUS. Fullpower ONLY when manouvering. I could frighten everyone silly with one by doing a touch and go and rolling it with just enough room for the wing tip to clear the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 I have started the build process, I am at the planning stage. This is a plan pack and there is no additional wood pack available, so breaking new ground again on my way to building from a plan and ultimately scratch building. One step at a time is the way I work. I have started by, creating a lists of wood and equipment I need to buy, and checking what needs changing for electric power. It all looks straight forward so far. More to come on this one but I have the RF-4 to complete. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 This is what you get as expected in a laser cut plan pack. Plus the plans and Peters article from RCMW November 2010. I have checked and there is nothing missing. Just if you are wondering how the balsa crisis is affecting Sarik here is a note. There are no 1/8" balsa parts but they have provided twice the number in 1/16" to laminate, R3 ribs and formers. No problem. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Ah, that explains why there so many formers! I have ordered a Revolver CNC set of parts from Sarik so it will be interesting to see what I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 There are eight formers in this fuselage. I have ordered an Ohmen and I am hoping this is not a bad omen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 I have made a start. Next is glue all the 1/16" parts that should be 1/8", 16 in total I think Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Piers like you I will find out today when The Ohmen is delivered. The 1/16" parts are hard balsa BTW. Now I have three builds. Is this becoming an obsession? Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 I have glued all of the 1/16" components together to make 1/8", ribs and formers. I have glued the two halves of the fuselage sides together then I will add the ply doublers. While working on this it struck me that this would easily scale up to 50". Hmmm another project for me. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Take it to your local print shop or office supply shop and they can do it for you. Very cheaply too considering the work involved in scaling up a plan on the draing board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 I have found a local printer Newton Printing Services in Barton upon Humber which is only seven miles away and even better the bus stop is almost outside the shop door. They do up to A1 which I think will be large enough. I will find out when I pay them a visit which will be in the spring. The doublers are glued and dried overnight. I must be learning something as this time I made them handed without applying any glue on the wrong side. The formers have been prepared by sanding off the burnt wood along the edges. This is a very simple fuselage build and does not need a plan, just a straight centre line. On the plan the former centre lines are marked so if one is cutting the formers the line is there. On the laser cut formers the centre line has to be drawn in before using them. Next start by gluing formers 1-4 on to one side of the fuselage. More to come. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Most print shops can do up to AO. However you can always cut the plan into smaller sections and stick it together afterwards. Your plan is probably A1 already A1 is 595 X 841 mm AO is 841 X 1189 mm Cut the A1 in half and then get the required enlargment to give you the span you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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