David Davis Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I quite fancy a quick-build sports model for my Laser 155 and was considering either the Galaxy Models Mystic or their Phoenix. Has anybody built either model? What is the difference between the two? They look identical to me. They're supposed to be suitable for a 120 four-stroke so I'm assuming that the 155 would be ok in this model. I looked at the Warlock too but the twin fins put me off. Your views are eagerly sought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 hello David,i built and flew the Mystic with a super tigre 90 in it.a big model at 75"....on the maiden the super tigre stopped and fearing the worst....but the model just floated around and even overshot the strip......an easy/quick build that is easy to fly...deffo recommend one.. ken anderson...ne...1..Mystic dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 "What is the difference between the two? They look identical to me." Came up on another thread recently, conclusion seemed to be: Canopy further forward on Phoenix. Trike (phoenix) vs taildragger (Mystic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I had a second hand Mystic some time ago. No really bad aspect to it though mine was a bit of a porker which might have been through having a painted finish. It flew quite nicely on an OS 120 Surpass, enough power but by no means at it's limit. I would think the 155 should do the job very nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I had a Mystic with an ASP .91 2 Stroke which was perfectly adequate but a 1.08 would have been better. A laser 155 would be more than adequate. It's not a hugely quick model whatever the power as the wing is quite thick so a 4 stroke makes a lot of sense. Maybe a 16x8 or 17x8 would be ideal. Do follow the option of skinning the tail surfaces with 1/32" sheet if possible, it makes a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Different shape, think the cowl is bigger on the Mystic, They recommend sheeting over the tail parts when fitting larger motors 155 in a Mystic would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 I've had it confirmed by Tony at Pegasus Models that the Mystic is a taildragger while the Phoenix is a trike. Otherwise they are much the same. I do a fair bit of instructing on ARTF trainers and like the steerable nose wheel. Decisions decisions! I suppose I'll have to count the number of 3.5" wheels I have in stock and then decide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Both models are similar to the gangster 75 from Mick reeves and we have sold plenty of 150's for that and a mystic in the past. I always liked the look of the phoenix though and the idea of fitting it with trike retracts has always appealed... Sigh, another model to add to the list of things to build one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Having slept on it I think I'll order a Mystic while Miss Blue Eyes and I live in seperate homes, me in France, her in Somerset. Then I can give her the old, "Oh that, I've had it for ages, just never got round to building it!" I chose the Mystic over the Phoenix because it has a conventional two-wheeled undercarriage. When I return to England I will probably end up flying off a grass strip rather than the paved runway I have here and the taildragger set up may be more practical.. That said, the power of a Laser 155 will soon get it airborne. I'll cover the tail surfaces in 1/32" balsa as suggested. I still have some left over from building my Big Guff vintage model. I'm thinking of finishing the Mystic in a spoof Soviet winter camouflage, red stars on white film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low pass Pete Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I built a Firebird many years ago (smaller version similar to Magician) Great model. Would recommend that you go for the fiberglass cowl option as the stock item is ABS which is not perfect choice in my opinion. Great looking local runway by the way. Where is that in France? Cheers and happy building Edited By Low pass Pete on 29/01/2021 07:10:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Posted by Low pass Pete on 29/01/2021 07:09:42: I built a Firebird many years ago (smaller version similar to Magician) Great model. Would recommend that you go for the fiberglass cowl option as the stock item is ABS which is not perfect choice in my opinion. Great looking local runway by the way. Where is that in France? Cheers and happy building Edited By Low pass Pete on 29/01/2021 07:10:51 Thanks for the tip Pete. The flying field is located between the villages of Lourdouiex St Pierre and Méasnes in the extreme north of La Creuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 PS. I've just ordered it. Don't tell her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was looking at the mystic again last night actually and it would make an excellent basis for a twin. Slap a 70 or 80 on each wing and it would be awesome! Another one for the list of models to build. The 155 will be great and even if it was 16lbs it would go really well. Just remember to lower that tank as i suspect the engine will go in inverted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Will do Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Posted by Jon - Laser Engines on 29/01/2021 08:22:47: I was looking at the mystic again last night actually and it would make an excellent basis for a twin. Slap a 70 or 80 on each wing and it would be awesome! Another one for the list of models to build. The 155 will be great and even if it was 16lbs it would go really well. Just remember to lower that tank as i suspect the engine will go in inverted? It's a classic design for sure. I think it is a sidewinder install. Mmm, two Laser 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 A twin, with round cowls, long nacelles, retracts and a nose like a Tigercat would be quite a model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Too many projects, too little time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Posted by Matt Carlton on 29/01/2021 11:26:38: A twin, with round cowls, long nacelles, retracts and a nose like a Tigercat would be quite a model. It’s called a Tigercat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Posted by Matt Carlton on 29/01/2021 11:26:38: A twin, with round cowls, long nacelles, retracts and a nose like a Tigercat would be quite a model. Interesting. I was thinking of gypsy style cowls similar to the DH comet but the nose on both aircraft is pretty similar. Perhaps it could be a group build. Galaxy mystic multi mashup 2021? How many variations can we make? Who will be brave and fit a 3rd engine at the front? It could be hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Maybe I'll let her choose the colour scheme once I've plucked up the courage to tell her that I've bought the Mystic. She's generally very supportive of my involvement in the hobby. She wants to learn both how to build and how to fly. She's done alright so far. PS. When I looked at Pegasus Models website yesterday there were four Mystics in stock. Now there are only two! Someone else must have been tempted! Edited By David Davis on 29/01/2021 14:50:46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I'd be up for another at some point. Electric twin might be nice. Gypsy cowls would be very nice actually, with fixed gear in a fairing like a Dragon Rapide Heck, what about twin EDF like an Me 262 or He 280. Edited By Matt Carlton on 29/01/2021 15:34:11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Now that the Mystic is on its way here, what sort of servos should I use and what size tank would you recommend for the Laser 155? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 "Galaxy mystic multi mashup 2021? How many variations can we make? Who will be brave and fit a 3rd engine at the front? It could be hilarious." Jon, don't tempt me, I have a biplane to get finishing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I used Hitec 645's mine I think. Did the job admirably well. I would imagine a 16 or 20oz tank would do the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Posted by Matt Carlton on 31/01/2021 17:56:56: I used Hitec 645's mine I think. Did the job admirably well. I would imagine a 16 or 20oz tank would do the job? Thank you Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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