kc Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 A substitute for lithoplate? I came across this - Metalcoat - on Mick Reeves site I have not used it but it might help anyone who cannot get lithoplate. I remember the fantastically realistic aluminium finish on Tim Hooper's Blackburn when i saw it a few years ago which was done by something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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McG 6969 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 ... oops... I guess the ground crew forgot to check the overboost discharge valve on the supercharger, Tony... Great picture by the way. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Tony, I know you're good with Depron but you've excelled yourself this time! Didn't take you long either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 ha ha ha yeah i wish. just thought it was a nice picture. I am not starting mine until oct 2018. Tony (depron disaster ) B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Posted by kc on 13/07/2017 18:57:08: A substitute for lithoplate? I came across this - Metalcoat - on Mick Reeves site I have not used it but it might help anyone who cannot get lithoplate. I remember the fantastically realistic aluminium finish on Tim Hooper's Blackburn when i saw it a few years ago which was done by something similar Hi KC the flitemetal/metalcoat type covering is a self adhesive alloy tape and can be quite effective. I would suggest that if you cannot get lith or you just cannot get lith to form the curves (it will not be easy I can assure you, and will take practice) then by all means the tape will look great, but lith will look even better. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Great shot Tony, I wonder if that sort of discoloration buffs out? looks kind of permananet to me?? That would fun to reproduce Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Sephton 1 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thanks for the heads-up on metalcote kc. I'm currently building a free flight Blackburn Monoplane which has a shiny aluminium front end. This looks to be an ideal medium to replicate what I'm after and it'll also be a good test of the material before building the Fury. I'm committed to other building plans until the end of this season, but I'll procure some metalcote, try it out late autumn/early winter this year and report back. Getting back to the Fury, I'm currently thinking towards a model for BMFA Flying Only competition with a possible extension to Stand-Off. As a consequence, my model will have as much weight shaved off as I dare and limited detail. I'm also still pondering the power question - electric or IC. I'll maybe have a better idea on the latter when the plans arrive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 mine will be electric and Depron, with balsa and ply where needed. Stand off scale as i cannot compete with the likes of Danny, Andy and Martyn. Still it will be fun designing and building it. The wing mounts will be the funnest part. Tony (Depron) B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 A new booklet arrived today. Now scanned and available if anyone wants a copy.. Download here.. (just don't tell anyone) Best wishes Martyn Edited By Martyn K on 14/07/2017 14:06:31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Not the best scan in the world - sorry. The PDF creation and compression has made it worse unfortunately PS - please be patient, it make take a few minutes to appear... Just click once and it will open in a new tab (he says while checking the server log files) Martyn Edited By Martyn K on 14/07/2017 14:28:38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fats Flyer Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Martyn,Just downloaded and saved the file of the book.Everythings good here....thanks for the link ,every bit of info helps. Fats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Sephton 1 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Just ordered some metalcote from Mick Reeves models. Looks like it's time for some experiments..... Watch this space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Posted by Tony Bennett on 13/07/2017 21:45:29: Love that effect must have been some serious heat and is that sheet Ali or steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I've used Ali tape quite successfully and have been able to burnish it with a soft balsa block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The Ali tape methods are fully explained in the Blackburn B2 thread I was able to see Tim Hooper's super model at Old Warden a few years back. I was with somebody who had spent a working lifetime as a professional panel beater and he complimented Tim on the panel beating, so he was astounded when Tim explained it was tape! It was almost impossible to believe that this was not actual panel beating work. A little later we viewed the full size B2 in the hanger too and noted that Tim had got the effect just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Look at the louvres eeeek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Tim's comments about the 2.4 ghz aerials might be worth bearing in mind considering the Fury was probably a 35mhz or even 27 mhz model which would have had long aerials placed on the exterior for flying. I came across Brian Peckham's old article about using lithoplate- if anybody needs a copy send me a PM. Louvres in lithoplate were covered in a Phillip Kent article a few years back - he used a shape wood 'die' in a drill press to punch the louvres. Trouble is I cannot remmber which magazine he wrote that in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thank you for your link to the 'markings' booklet, Martyn. Seeing "Northern Europe", I was hoping to find some Belgian Air Force markings & decos. But apparently the only craft with BAF markings seems the one 'donated' by the SAAF to the Force Publique in 1940 which flew in Belgian Congo... and nosed over during a landing in Gambela just a few days after receiving its BAF colors & markings... But it was a Hardy - aka a 'tropic' converted Hart - and definitely not a Fury Mk1. Back to - nearly - zero unless I decide to 'repair' the K4316... and create a 'swept back' wing too... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 hmmm 3D printed louvres. Tony B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 See if this works Chris https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/283937951485567346/Edited By Martyn K on 14/07/2017 21:45:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thanks for the link, Martyn. I'll have a look at it and report back, of course. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Keld 1 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Hi Guy's just a thought I've got a few rolls of self adhesive alloy tape obtained from an engineering supply shop we use it for covering up holes and hydraulic hose ends etc when doing rebuilds on earthmoving equipment its very sticky will even stay on when steam cleaning components comes in different widths too Has a wax paper backing on it I have used to make windscreen frames for my Frog gliders it is thick enough to polish with brasso can be stretched slightly without tearing too They also sell loctite products too 401 and 406 are very useful industrial strength superglues the tape is 0.25mm thick would this be worth an experiment I was thinking of using soapy water to stop it sticking and trying to form it around compound curves don't worry I will wait until the build starts proper just bouncing ideas around need to buy a table and chair for my shed CheersVince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Sephton 1 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I've scanned and posted the covers of several books and magazines I have on the Fury. If you've only going to get one, then I'd go for the Mushroom Publications book 'Hawker Fury and Nimrod'. It has a lot of detail pictures and three-views of the Duxford Nimrod and Belgian Replica Fury to support the text. However, if you're after a different colour scheme to the normal RAF silver, then you'll find colour drawings of camouflaged Furys in the Spanish booklet and the Allied Wings booklets Vol 1 and 2 Both AeroModellers contain three-view drawings of the Fury Mk 1 Edited By Andy Sephton 1 on 15/07/2017 10:45:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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