Dwain Dibley. Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I like the Blue one. ? D.D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Mine will look like this! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, David Davis said: Mine will look like this! ? How is yours coming along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Too busy applying for a residency permit, working on the Big Guff, preparing my Barons for la Coupe Des Barons in June and teaching a Belgian clubmate how to build and fly. We are building a Junior 60, so no progress on the Auster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Okay how about a bit of feedback for you scale peeps. I have a few ideas how I am going to attempt do this, but thought it might be fun to see how you would do it, no right or wrong answer, just a bit of fun. The DB Auster has no door detail, and cutting actual doors is very difficult with the way the model is built, so just standoff non functioning doors is all that is required. So here is the patient: And here is the full size, have used Andy's fab pics as a reference again, thx Andy. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Litho or 1/64" ply door outlines? Sliding window should be easy enough to rig up. I've a soft spot for the Auster, it was the first plane that I flew in at age around 7. I can't remember whether it was a Skegness or Yarmouth holiday, but I do remember it as being red and silver paintwork. That short pleasure flight certainly stayed with me? Edited April 12, 2021 by Bob Cotsford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Hi Bob, yep that's what I am thinking, 64th ply frame, covered in Ceconite, I won't reveal yet (might not work) But the full size door is a fabric affair, over an alloy frame. The edges are fabric over alloy sheet. As you say the sliding windows are fairly easy to do, though they probably wont slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 So the secret to this working or not is the thickness of the ply, plus two layers of Ceconite as it is wrapped around the edge to give a nice finish. I think it will work just fine. I doped the Ceconite to the ply, making sure no trapped air bubbles, but then used BalsaLoc to seal the folded edges. The combination seems to have worked well. I am now debating the material to affix the doors. Medium CA would work but its very permanent, there again that's what I want I suppose? Ply cut and Ceconite doped on, the edges were then trimmed. Edges sealed with BalsaLoc Now I have proven that it seems to work, I just have to make another for the pilots side. Cheers Danny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Bob Cotsford said: Litho or 1/64" ply door outlines? Sliding window should be easy enough to rig up. I've a soft spot for the Auster, it was the first plane that I flew in at age around 7. I can't remember whether it was a Skegness or Yarmouth holiday, but I do remember it as being red and silver paintwork. That short pleasure flight certainly stayed with me? Was that the pleasure flight to Scroby sands to see the seals? If so, it was from Yarmouth. I took the same flight, but my memory recalls a Cessna. I could be wrong though. Still a great memory though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I don't remember any seals Graham, to tell the truth I don't remember much but the thrill of leaving the ground in this rather loud and rattly magic carpet. The outline of the Auster was burned in and replicated with an Airfix kit when I got home. I seem to remember it being the holiday when I got a birthday present of a Cox Mustang c/l model so it was probably Skegness. Very brittle plastic that was hard to repair those Cox models! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Other door went well. I learned that thin CA is not the glue for Ceconite to Ceconite, however medium worked very well. I find the same with lite ply (which I don't like to use) medium works well thin just seems to wick away too much. Anyway the doors are both on and had two coats of 50/50 dope. We will have to see how they look with some paint, but for now its time for the tail-plane and elevators to be fitted. Cheers Danny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Very good Danny. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Thanks D.D. starting to get to the fun bit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 well I am having great fun trying to print a pilot to the right scale. a 1/5th is massive, though checking the 3 views the DB model is roughly 1/5 (1/4.9) I think perhaps the scaling numbers included with the 3d print file may be off. DD did you use a pilot in your model, and if so what scale? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 this figure is supposed to be 1/5th, and viewed from the sides and front is close to photos, however when viewed from above, he is occupying two thirds of the cockpit. Is an Auster really that cosy or is this guy built like a weightlifter? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Danny Fenton said: ...DD did you use a pilot in your model, and if so what scale? Cheers Danny A fellow expatriate made up a pilot for me to the dimensions I sent him. When it arrived it was too big so I had to amputate his legs below the knee. I regret that I have not done anything with the Auster because I am busy getting models ready for Cocklebarrow and La Coupe Des Barons. I don't know what the other DD did for his pilot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 hours ago, David Davis said: A fellow expatriate made up a pilot for me to the dimensions I sent him. When it arrived it was too big so I had to amputate his legs below the knee. I regret that I have not done anything with the Auster because I am busy getting models ready for Cocklebarrow and La Coupe Des Barons. I don't know what the other DD did for his pilot. I did not have a pilot I just made two seats and instruments, sorry. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Ghost squadron DD....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 I have hacked away much of his lower regions, and his feet are gone. He still overfills the cockpit in my opinion, but he is 1/5th apparently lol What do you think? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I found the AOP6 roomy and comfortable with two up front, no way was it cramped as it is with that pilot. It can't be right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Colin Leighfield said: I found the AOP6 roomy and comfortable with two up front, no way was it cramped as it is with that pilot. It can't be right. Thanks Colin, that's the sort of info I need. Unfortunately the STL file gives multipliers for the scale you need. This should be 1/5th But it clearly is too big. Cheers Danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just a thought......is the seat at the correct (scale) height? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Hi cymaz, no the seat is too high, but I have hacked loads of the pilots back side away to lower him. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 It struck me that if the pilot was scaled correctly, then the fuselage was incorrectly scaled and too narrow! Therefore I'm relieved at the conclusion that the pilot is at fault, it certainly looks too big to my eye. Flying the Auster felt to me like being in a comfortable armchair, smooth and steady. Elbow room certainly wasn't an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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