Piers Bowlan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The Rara Avis looks a bit like a basic 3D Nigel but then a Basic 3D is a bit like a fun flier to me. Well at least it has a thick symmetrical wing-section and large control surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Wood Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 The RM Snark from '72. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 Snark is on Outerzone- it's an olden but is it golden ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Nice one Richard. ? A bit of scaling up and an electric conversion and it could be very tempting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delks Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) On 24/03/2021 at 14:01, Delks said: first Rival was powered by an OS FP.40 and wing span was 48" - the same as the Quick Flash 20. My error - the Quick Flash 20 was in fact 44" span but the first Rival was 48"span. Edited April 8, 2021 by Delks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Sharp Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I can endorse a Wayfarer (https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5908) and had I known about this its younger sibling Acrostar (https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6256) being almost identical... both on outer zone. There is a slightly modified suppliment to the Acrostar called AcroFury (https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6242). All are standard balsa / spruce /ply straightforward construction. Ply Cabane struts and Rubber bands for Wayfarer and Bentwire plus nylon bolts for Acrostar/AcroFury. This was built last year on returning to aeromodelling due to pandemic furlough free time ? Mine is a very nice flyer on 4S and 650-700 watts - 8 mins of conmfortable clubman aerobatics. Knife edge, Loops, Bunt's, Vertical Eight's indefinate inverted flight etc... Walking pace landings what's not to like. Just make sure you use sufficent "Rubber bands" to hold the top wing! My first few flights were interesting until the penny dropped... became a very very nice predicable machine exactly as described in the RCM article (plus make sure you build with 1/4 medium solid sheet tail as recommended by the original designer as a revision in a Svenson kit review also available on outer zone). Balsa/Ply, wheels, Wire etc cost me about £120 from Balsa cabin. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Foley Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 While looking for a winter build came across a Clive Weller design called Ensign.(RC Model World Dec 1984) Has anyone built one? Looks a simple build and may convert to 4s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) I built an "Amelia" by Derek Woodward over lockdown. Plan is on OZ. Some people had noted a weak wing joint but mine has been absolutely fine. 320W on 3S 2200 and an 11.5 x 5 prop, AUW about 2.75lb. Flies beautifully. Slow and steady if you want, but nicely aerobatic if the mood takes you. One of the nicest flying models I have owned. Edited June 9, 2021 by Matt Carlton 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave parnham Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Does anybody know if you can get a plan of the YTInternational Magic Funfly? One of the best models ive never flown..... my brother still has his on skis and wont let me dismantle it.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gates Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 11:54, kc said: Another lesser known model that deserves a mention is the Basic 3D by Mike Keay. The version a clubmate built looked like an equal to a Wot4 - very few models are, but this one was! - so worth considering. Its 58 inch span or the version without wingtips 52 inch span. The magazine article is here. Agree with KC, superb model. I built mine very light and it flew amazingly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) I have just come across the FUGLY STICK plan on Outerzone which is by Warren Brown of Melbourne Australia. Seems a practical design that is well worth a look for a quick build funfly design. Based on the the traditional Ugly Stik but with a thicker wing and smaller 52 inch span with just a .36 glow. Seems to be a recent design but not published in any magazine and possibly just one built.. Personally I would prefer a different fin and rudder shape to the round shape from the Ugly Stik and I would say the normal torque rod u/c ( as Peter Miller and Boddington's designs ) would be better. The other constructional details are worth a glance - such as dental floss ( ? ?) to sew the piano wire to the ply former and the ailerons built from flat strip and planed to a tapered section. But I do like the formers built up from strip instead of big chunks of balsa and the use of square balsa reinforcement instead of expensive triangle balsa. Shouldn't confuse this design with the British kit Fugly which is different and maybe even uglier. Edited October 16, 2021 by kc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 After deciding that my previous effort at "Amelia" didn't really pass muster, I've decided to build another. A few lessons from the first time round, a few inconsistencies and draughting errors on the plan (possibly age related distortion?) and a couple of weeks got me to this point. Lots of fiddling, sanding, fiddling, sanding etc to go, but looking ok I think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 After a bit of a delay and indecision about covering, we're nearly there. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Dyer Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Talking of the Maricardo: not built one, but with mid wing, where do the wing bolts fit through ??. Maury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 The original had dowels to take rubber bands i think. Later version may have had wing bolts with removeable canopy hiding them or bolts from underside instead. Look for the latest plan which was a free plan with RCME years ago which had various modernisations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 The Maricardo Revisited article and revised plan by Paul Strawson was in RCME April 2004. Many improvements including wing bolts from underneath and a hatch on fuselage underside for access to wing bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I did a mid wing with bolts that went from above. I made the cockpit area into a big hatch that attached separately using magnets. The wing went in first, then the cockpit. Worked well. Fair amount of extra work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Just because the photo's came out quite nicely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Failed Flyer Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Advice on a low wing model Now in my seventies I was brought up with David Boddington in the 1960's Single channel kit build macgregor transistor receiver and kit built rcm&e galloping ghost transmitter. Started building again two years ago and decided to go electric using DB's RM Trainer.( I hadn't seen Nigel r conversion) I now want to move on to a electric low winger and would like any help I can get. I don't need a great aerobatic model as I will be pleased to achieve a simple level circuit! Do I build DB's aerobat, DB's Excellence or could I get away with Peter Miller's Ballerina. Any thoughts would be a great help. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The Aerobat is nice. I built one when it was done as a Free Plan. Tough, nice flier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 FF, having had extensive experience with both the Excellence and Peter's old Ballerina, I would recommend either. Both fly really well and are tough as... Neither have any bad habits and are forgiving and easy to fly. Ballerina is more aerobatic, but you won't go wrong with either. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Mind, some might say, times move on. I’ve flown some of Peter millers offerings, nice flyers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Hound Dog, is a good subject. Not at all wild but does nice slow docile aerobatics when you want to. You can still buy the latest issue with the plans in the Newsagents which will save a lot of money. A friend who doesn't do wild aerobatics flew mine ad loved it and is going to build one himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 The Hound Dog build is here on the forum, and it's in the current issue of RCME. Seems a suitable model for 'Failed Flyer' although a larger model might be better as one gets older if eyesight is any problem - Balllerina is a little larger. Otherwise consider the Rival or something with a big fat wing section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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