Ross Clarkson Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi all, I have just bought a couple of droppable dummy bombs from Slec and i was wondering if anybody else on this forum has fun with them? Also, can i just check before going on a bomb run that there are no legal issues with them? Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy watson Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Guy from the club had one for a while, he had fun with it but seems not to have done anything with it for a while- maybe he wrote off the plane, not sure. I don't think there are any legal issues per se....... but if you hit someone it would be a bit hard to explain if they decided to be grumpy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 And remember,you watch the plane not the bomb,so you never get to see what happens so there is no point doing it Ross,sorry mate ,just trying to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 BRITISH MODEL FLYING ASSOCIATION Article 73 of the Air Navigation Order requires that: ‘A person shall not recklessly or negligently act in a manner likely to endanger an aircraft, or any person therein.’ THESE APPLY TO ALL MODEL AIRCRAFT AT ALL TIMES, WHATEVER THEIR WEIGHT OR SIZE. In addition, Article 98 of the ANO requires that: A person shall not cause or permit any article or animal (whether or not attached to a parachute) to be dropped from a small aircraft (defined by the CAA as a model up to 20 kg without fuel ) so as to endanger persons or property A bit unclear as to whether therefore this means that if you do drop a bomb or similar so as NOT to endanger people or property..... then you are OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think that the last statement would not be necessary if dropping an article was against the ANO - laws don't usually have to explain themselves...surely this means if you hit someone with your bomb or just miss a CAA official's car with it then you can expect a knock on the door! But I'm not a lawyer so this is only the voice of logic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 what I am trying to say is that it does suggest that dropping things from models is not allowed if its likely to endager people /property, therefore if things are dropped that do NOT endanger people or property,,, thats OK then ?? Of coure the gray area is how can one be sure that people or property will not be endangered. Wind drift, people appearing in flight path etc etc... If a stray toffee hits some little kiddy at the next public show toffee bomber run, is that endangering people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Posted by Timbo - Moderator on 30/09/2009 00:02:11: Of coure the gray area is how can one be sure that people or property will not be endangered. Wind drift, people appearing in flight path etc etc... I suppose that the onus is on the pilot, in the same way that you are responsible for not endangering persons, property, other aircraft etc. or in the case of 7kg and above, reasonably satisfying yourself that the flight can be made... ...and if little Jimmy's parents complain to the CAA or the police about his black eye, yes - the pilot and organisers might well find themselves attempting to justify their actions in court against a charge of contravening article 74 of the ANO!Edited By Martin Harris on 30/09/2009 00:20:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Cheers guys, Article 73 does not apply as i will not be endangering the aircraft or any persons in it!!! FYI. This is what we use to convict persons that shine Laser pens at aircraft! Most cases are pushing for custodial sentences now even if first offence!!! As for Article 98, there has to be an intent or element of recklessness associated with this to commit the offence. As long as i ensure it will be safe to do so and take reasonable precautions then i assume i will be ok. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy watson Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 This is a very clever law- if you drop something and don't hit anyone you are not endangering them. If you do hit someone you have clearly broken the law. In other words you are legal as long as nothing goes wrong. I am simply pointing out if you do have an accident dropping bombs you will be indisputably liable- even if the dog did run out from miles away to where you have been bombing all afternoon. It will be your fault. Make extra sure you take lots of precautions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Whisky Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Has anybody else bought the little parachutists from Tesco toy section @ £2 each? They look so realistic when dropped from 150ft or so. Watch for wind-drift though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I have rigged my Black Horse Mowhawk to drop an Action Man para! But I brief everyone else on the flight line and drop well clear of the pits and spectators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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