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Thread: My not so happy flying club experience
26/07/2012 12:22:05

Following some unintended but obviously wrong infractions of the forum rules on my part (for which I have apologised to David), I had told the moderator that I would refrain from further adding to my "rant/blowing off steam etc" on this thread.

However, my final comment is to answer one of the posters on page 3:

I did attend the aforemention AGM, I was physically accosted by the Club President prior to the AGM when he grabbed me by the arm and told me "not to fly without being under his supervision or I would be out of the club" (I left out the expletives he used to comply with the forum rules). Like I said previously, I am a very safe and competent flyer, demonstrated by my relatively minor number of crashes, i.e. 2 in three years of flying.

I should have just turned round and gone home at that point but I then sat through an hour of listening to moans/gripes/sneers about Spektrum transmitters and "they should be banned", "vetting of new members to see if they fit in", "no helicopters", "no foreigners" etc etc. Ok, its their club, their rules and they can do what they want although certain remarks they made about foreign nationals are against Irish law, I wish I'd pointed out.

For my part, I get along with 99% of the people I meet. I'm friendly by nature, willing to learn new aspects of flying and generally am happy to follow the rules. However I also have a sense of self respect and I don't think I was unreasonable to take umbrage at being sworn at, grabbed by the arm (I'm 43 and not an errant 10 year old) and generally spoken to like I am some sort of mindless idiot. As a former ATC officer, I can assure you that I am not.

Now I think I've said all I can say on this subject. I picked the wrong club, had a bad experience and obviously still feel aggrieved. No point in trying to go back and mend fences as I don't think this lone foamie electric flyer would fit in with the balsa boys.

Thread: modelling crisis - advice needed
25/07/2012 18:39:12

I'm the opposite to you. All I have are parkflyers up to 1.2 metre (with the exception of a 2 metre sailplane) and I'd love a large scale plane.

The parkflyers are handy for throwing in the boot for an impromtu fly when the occasion arises. However, they do suffer more in the wind than larger scale planes I've seen fly. This does present a nice challenge to your flying skills, especially if trying to land in a gusting crosswind.wink

Thread: My not so happy flying club experience
25/07/2012 18:34:00
Posted by StevenH on 25/07/2012 16:14:57:

Is it the one near the Sugarloaf, Wicklow?

If so that is a real shame, I was a member there when I was a teenager and there was nothing like that going on, really awful behaviour. disgust

I now live in the UK, Milton Keynes and have recently taken up the hobby again and my club is great thankfully (WMAC) and I think a good club is a vital part of our hobby.

Hope you find a decent club after your experience.

No Steven, this club is based on the Dublin/Kildare border. While I am tempted to "name and shame", the rc flying community is a very small and tight knit one in Ireland. As I'd like to join another club at some point, I don't want to get myself blacklisted for openly complaining about a MACI (Ireland's BMFA) registered club.

For the record, I did ring MACI and briefly told them of my experience. Their suggestion was to talk to the Club President. As he was the one who gave me the foul mouthed abuse, that suggestion was a non runner.

25/07/2012 16:00:05

Had to get a wisdom tooth out yesterday afternoon, hence my absence from this discussion.

The Leinster Model Flying Club in Dublin's Phoenix Park was one of the clubs I visited while searching for the "right one" to join. They were a nice friendly bunch of lads and I spent an enjoyable morning discussing all things rc flying. While they were all flying ic planes, they didn't sneer at my electrics and appeared to be quite interested in the "greener" side of the hobby. They invited me to join and gave me the application form. The reason I didn't join was that the field they fly in is open to the public and I'd feel concerned about a model going out of control and hurting someone. Even though I have insurance, I'd still feel bad if I inadvertantly injured someone.

The club I did join fly from an isolated field on the side of a mountain miles from anywhere so no passers by and no one to injure.

While I could go back and try and join the club in Dublin, I no longer work in the area and it would be out of the way to go and fly.

There are a couple of clubs near where I now work so perhaps I'll put my bad experience behind me and go along and talk to them. Maybe I could be tempted to try ic eventually but on my terms and not because I'm being coerced. It would be nice to have a laugh and a banter, even when things go wrong and the plane gets broken. Its at times like that when a funny quip can help reduce the bad vibes you get when your beautiful model gets smashed up.


Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 26/07/2012 08:28:57

24/07/2012 12:15:20


I went up to see them three times before I joined. I told them what I flew and what tx I used. Zero comments on that until the first time I flew (post handing over my fees mind). I can understand a club being nervous of someone flying recklessly but that is not what I do, ever. My flying style would best be described as boring with nice circuits, loops (way up high mind) and very occasionally, I might do a roll, also way up high. I don't do low flypasts or inverted flight. Perhaps thats why my crash rate is so low.

I did consider asking for my fees back but I thought stuff them, I wouldn't give them th epleasure of refusing to refund me.

Saying all that, I'd still love to fly with some other rc enthuasiasts for the banter (good natured) and to swap hints and tips.

24/07/2012 12:05:01
Posted by Pete B on 24/07/2012 11:55:55:

That's very sad to read.....sad

I agree - name the club, David. There's a more than even's chance that at least one member looks into this forum and will recognise the situation so it won't have gone unnoticed.

Of course, clubs are entitled to make whatever rules they like but the treatment given to you is inexcusable.

Perhaps the club President would like to offer his version of events and a justification for the behaviour?


I followed all their rules Pete, i.e., no more than three planes in the air, no flying over the pits, all circuits to the left, land when told etc. I had demonstrated that morning that I could fly safely in a controlled manner and despite the cross wind, I was the only one who landed on his wheels and thus demonstrated that I had good control of my model. The rest of them, including the Club President, all cart wheeled or flipped over on landing.

I'm a reasonable guy, who was prepared to do what was necessary to abide by their code of conduct but junking my fleet of 14 foamies, binning my tx and shelling out hundreds on a balsa plane, motor, starter, new tx etc is not within my financial means at the moment.

I made my decision to quit and not go back. The elitest snobbery I found up there at that club is not to my taste. RC flying is a hobby thats meant to be enjoyed, not endured.


24/07/2012 11:53:44

While I would never claim to be an ace flyer, I know I am a good flyer and more importantly, safe at all times. 2 crashes in 3 years is a good record imo, especially as I fly as often as I can, up to 4 times a week. This club experience has left a real bad taste in my mouth tbh as I love this hobby but have become a little jaded flying alone, constantly aware of passers by in case they try to nick my flight bag (you know how helpless you are when flying, do you respond and risk losing the plane or let them leg it with your batteries, etc?).

I live just outside Dublin and the choice of model flying clubs over here is sparse to say the least. For my part, I visited this club three times before I joined. I told them I flew electric foamies and used a spekkie DX6i and there wasn't a single negative comment. They did say that they flew balsa and used Futaba radios but they never said that was the way I had to go if I wanted to "fit in". I'm well used to banter between grown men, trust me you had to have a hard shell working in the ATC environment when tempers would fray when things got busy.  So I'm not a shrinking violet and I can take a ribbing.  However the comments directed at me at the club were not meant light heartedly and were downright mean and nasty.  Perhaps I'm cynical but their mask slipped only after I handed over my club fees of a hundred quid. As for naming them, rc flying is a very small minority sport in Ireland and Joe Public wouldn't care. All I'd risk doing is alienating myself from the rest of the model flying fraternity in Ireland if and when I try to join another club.

Edited By David M on 24/07/2012 11:56:54

24/07/2012 11:01:08

After three years of solo flying, I joined a club to fly with like minded souls. Unfortunately it has turned out rather badly.

They were all nice as pie when I visited them before I joined, and all appeared to be welcoming. So I paid my club fee, showed them my insurance and thought, finally, hassle free flying at a private flying field without some dog walker moaning or his mutt trying to eat one of my planes. My first trip to the club had me waiting an hour to get into the air, despite the fact that I was there before most of the others. "Its a seniority thing" they smirked. Ok I thought. So I finally got into the air and then all I heard from the pits behind me was:

"look at the little foamie, its not a plane, more like a toy"

"electric planes sound so asthmatic"

"aah, its getting blown around, no one fart, har, har, har"

"He's using a Spektrum tx. Wonder when he'll lose control?"

"Land that thing and get a real plane"

All that during my ten minute flight where I took off, did circuits, loops, rolls and had a perfect landing.

Then the Club President wandered over to say he had just rung the local model shop and said that I could get a real plane, (i.e. balsa) and motor for 200 quid. He might also do me a deal on a new transmitter as "everyone at the club uses Futaba". I said no thanks, I was happy enough with what I had. The following week, I went to my first club meeting and it was the most uncomfortable hour of my life. Comments about restricting flying to balsa planes, banning foamies, uniformity of transmitters, vetting of new applicants. Now as I was the only one who had a foam plane, the only one who didn't have a Futaba tx and was the only new member for the past 6 months, I'm pretty sure those comments were directed at me or am I just paranoid?

The coup de grace occured after the meeting when the Club President called me aside and said I could only fly under his supervision as the other club members were not happy with my choice of tx and felt it could lead to an accident. I told him I had been flying for three years with only two crashes, and furthermore I was a former Air Traffic Controller with over ten years experience and therefore I knew more about flight than most. He got a little foul mouthed then and said "You aren't to (swear word removed by moderator) fly unless I'm there". I said "I was the only one who managed to land on his wheels last week unlike you balsa bashers who all ended up going ar$e over t!t, and futhermore, there is more to flying than going full throttle in a circle".

I haven't gone back since. I did get a text from him a while back telling me he would be at the field to supervise me. I said no thanks and that was the end of my club flying.

Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 24/07/2012 18:46:19

Thread: Absolute beginner
24/07/2012 10:33:07

Spektrum DX6i is what I use at present althought it only has a ten model memory and I now have 14 planes! Like others have said, a transmitter is a personal choice and you may prefer the look and feel of one model over another. Be aware that if you later decide to change to another brand of transmitter, it will mean changing all your receivers too. In my case, I like Hitec's Aurora transmitter but the thoughts of changing 14 receivers (and the cost) is preventing me from moving to the Aurora.

Thread: rodents made a nest with my model
24/07/2012 10:28:21

I normally store my planes up high suspended from the ceiling of my garage and thus out of reach of my kids!. However I had my Parkzone Me109 down on my workbench for some maintenance and I left it overnight. Next day, I discovered that part of the cockpit had been eaten away by mice. I set traps and over the space of a week, I eventually caught 21 of the little beggars!!

Needless to say, I don't leave my foam planes down where the little furry ones can access them.


Edited By Steve Hargreaves - Moderator on 24/07/2012 10:43:44

Thread: Hobby King models thread
16/07/2012 10:59:05

I've been happy with 90% of my purchases from Hobbyking HK, escs, retracts, batteries etc all aok and working well. I've bought three planes from them, a Stinger edf which I haven't flown yet, and two Kinetics (powered 900mm wingspan gliders).

The first Kinetic (which is a Multiplex Merlin clone btw), I flew on a three cell 850mah battery and it always put a smile on my face. Very fast, very agile and long flight times. The stock esc blew on her while I was doing a pre-flight motor run up (lucky for me it went on the ground and not in the air) and I then put in an eflite 30amp esc and no problems since.

The second Kinetic arrived from HK with two dead servos in the elevator and rudder which I had to replace. I flew this as a two cell 500mah battery configuration for slope flying and for some inexplicable reason, she flew like a dead whale, all over the place and frequent unintended ground interface events (into heather so no damage). I can't figure this out at all as Kinetic 1 flies like a dream but its 2 cell counterpart (which is the way it was designed) flies terribly.

However this wouldn't put me off buying from HK as their Durafly range of planes make their PZ equivalents look positively spartan in comparison. Just make sure the spare parts are available and they'll be a sure fire winner.

Thread: FMS Mustang wipe out. Help ?
03/07/2012 17:33:37

The OP's issue sounds like he definitely had an esc brown out which resulted in his plane having an unfortunate plane/ground interface. FMS models come with all the bells and whistles, e.g. flaps, retracts etc all pulling (via the rx) on the esc. Surely a separate bec is a good idea in case the esc goes into brown out mode (and thus cuts power to the rx) due to a sticking servo, retract etc or from flying wot for too long? In this instance, while you might lose the motor, you have a chance to land her by having the control surfaces still working as they are getting their power via the rx which in turn is being powered through the separate bec.

An esc brown out is hard to find post crash as it would have cooled down and resumed normal function, albeit amongst a pile of foam that once looked like a plane.

Thread: you started flying models because?
17/06/2012 14:07:57

I worked in Air Traffic Control for years and even though I left that job, I never lost the love I'd developed for aviation, and how planes fly, in particular. A couple of years ago, I saw a Parkzone Radian soaring over my local park and I stood watching it for ages. When it eventually landed, I talked to the pilot who was only too happy to answer my questions. As it turned out, he taught me how to fly and I was quite surprised that I was actually rather good at it. I suppose having an understanding of flight mechanics helped in avoiding stalls etc.

Lately though, my enthusiasm has waned. While I do spend hours tinkering with my planes, adding flaps, retracts etc, I don't fly much anymore. Tbh I think I've lost my confidence to throw a plane into the air and enjoy the flight like I used to do. Lately, I just think about "what if she crashes? ". A mate has told me to "ignore the voices and go fly. If it comes to grief, so what?" he says. Wise advice but more easily said than done I'm afraid.

Thread: Is there a small plane that I can fly around my garden?
11/06/2012 17:29:14

The Carbon Cub is a real looker alright Chrissie. I'll do some research on her when I get home.

Brian, the Beast looks great but is probably too fast for my small area. Just want something nice and slow for some "backyard" flying.

09/06/2012 13:03:57

Thanks to all for the suggestions. While I'm not really very keen on micro planes (too weather dependent and I've no indoor area to fly them in), I have 5 kids and I'm finding that opportunities for getting away to my club field for a fly these days are getting rarer and rarer. So having a small plane that I can do touch and go's with on my patio/driveway and some general flying is becoming almost a necessity. I had considered the PZ Night Vapour but it looks so fragile. The Ember looks sturdier but it was the Champ that caught my eye. I don't know if I really want to spend time building my own (although I have built larger scale warbirds) and control line isn't for me as I get dizzy just looking at other guys fly their planes in circles.

Ill have a closer look at some of the kits suggested and perhaps have a think about scratch building my own from odds and ends in the work dump. Getting the Champ is the quick and lazy option thoughsmiley

08/06/2012 15:57:22

I have a large enough site (circa an acre) but its bounded on all four sides by tall oaks and poplars (60 feet+ tall) and therefore I can't fly my Parkzone foamies in and out of the site. The site is pretty long but not that wide (20 metres approx). I wanted a plane that I could fly around the garden for the times I couldn't escape from babysitting duties.

I bought an UM Trojan but even that was too fast for the space and it ended up whizzing round on its wingtip while I tried to stop it hitting the trees.

Is there a small, slow flying plane that I could get to fly around the garden and land/take off from my driveway? I've looked at the Hobbyzone Aeronauca Champ and the PZ Ember. Would either be suitable, i.e. could fly in that space and handle a little wind? I don't need anything more exotic as its just a plane to feed my fix while waiting to get away to my club field.


Edited By David M on 08/06/2012 15:58:27

Thread: What does your wife or significant other half think of your hobby?
08/06/2012 15:46:31
Posted by Graham Chadwick on 08/06/2012 15:04:31:

"Pack your bags if you are going to go on moaning!"

So she did,

And we are both much happier now.

Problem solved.

Thanks for the tip. Must try that one outwink

My trouble and strife thinks nothing of spending hundreds on clothes she never wears, shoes that are never worn and knick knacks for the house that have no discernible purpose. But that doesn't stop her sneering at me and my "toy" planesdisgust. I spend an afternoon soldering some connectors onto batteries and escs and that gives her carte blanche to storm out for a girl's night in revenge????

Sorry but why should we even care what they think? Do they ever stop and ask us what we think???????

Thread: more problems with my spektrum
10/05/2012 15:31:43
Posted by Tim Mackey on 09/05/2012 17:14:55:

Your previous experience and knowledge of "RF Issues" coupled with a proper understanding of the AR500 should have then told you that the "flashing AR500" has nothing at all to do with loss of signal. What you suffered from was a brown out - caused solely by a lack of adequate voltage to the receiver.

As I have stated MANY times in the past, signal loss is not shown on the receiver by flashing lights, and brown outs and signal loss are completely unconnected.

Edited By Tim Mackey on 09/05/2012 17:15:38

Hi Tim

You are quite correct that the flashing orange light is caused by a brown out. In my case, this flashing light might have been caused by the Rad's twitching servos continuing to suck juice from the lipo while I spent almost two hours searching for her and thus the rx didn't get sufficient power which resulted in the flashing light.

What caused the Rad to take off on a solo run is the mystery. If 2.4ghz is "bullet proof" as some radio makers would have us believe, why did I lose radio lock with her? My own pet theory is the ar500 rx itself. I had another incident with another ar500 when my Me109 flipped over onto her back and nosed in from two hundred feet up totally destroying the plane. She just wouldn't respond to any control despite my having plenty of time to try and save her. As usual, I had done my range check, there was a fresh battery in the 109 and my telemetry device showed that the voltage was a steady 11v when she went out of control less than 60 seconds into the flight. Since then, I've ditched the ar500's and now use ar600 or orange rxs and have no other problems.

So in three years of rc flying, I've had just two crashes where the common denominator was the ar500 rxs in the two planes. My tuppence worth.

Thread: Parkzone P-47
10/05/2012 14:52:12

Hi Richard,

I have 10 Parkzone planes, including the P47 and I use this stuff for filling in holes left following unintended plane/immovable object interface:-crying

Very fine white paste that you push into the hole and when it hardens, you just sand as necessary and paint. It is very lightweight and won't upset the c of g of your plane.

However, if you still have the piece of foam that was knocked out of the wing, this can be glued back in using 5 minute epoxy or foam safe glue and kicker.  Check out the "Bob Smith glue" website and you'll find a list of "sticky stuff" that are safe to use on your foamies.  I use their epoxy and foam safe ca glue on my planes and never had a problem.  You can use the filler I linked to above to fill in any gaps left.



Edited By David M on 10/05/2012 14:55:00

Edited By David M on 10/05/2012 14:59:19

Edited By David M on 10/05/2012 15:00:17

Thread: more problems with my spektrum
09/05/2012 17:00:47

Hi all,

I'm a former ATC officer and have had long experience with "rf issues". Even the most sophisticated radio gear can suffer from interference, whether it be from other rf sources, weather etc. Nothing is bullet proof, despite what some rc radio manufacturers will claim.

For my part, my Parkzone Radian glider took off on a solo run in August 2010 (its seared into my memory!) despite the fact that I was in a rural location, on top of a hill, with clear line of sight and no powerlines, radio masts, or cell phone masts etc within a mile of me. I had done my usual range check pre-flight and it passed successfully. I found the Rad after a few hours of searching and discovered that the AR500 rx was flashing. What caused the loss of signal remains a mystery to me and it unfortunately gnaws at me everytime I send a plane up, i.e. every unintended wiggle makes me think "oh no, she's out of control".  The upside is that its made me a safe flyer and I always plan for the worst ,and if the worst happens and she goes out of control, then at least she'll hit the empty patch of ground and not any person, building etc.

My point is that by all means, carry out full pre flights, incl range checks, and you might save yourself a lot of grief but be prepared for the fact that sometimes things go inexplicably wrong and its bye bye plane. Its all part of the hobby.

Edited By David M on 09/05/2012 17:05:57

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