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Thread: CAA Registration Impact on STEM Activities
07/01/2020 14:56:17
Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 07/01/2020 14:11:41:

If educational bodies are aware of registration, then why is registration a blocker to a project?

If the Educational Lead (teacher/lecturer) is not prepared to register as an operator then that is down to them, not the registration system.

It could be argued that there is some real-world educational value is taking students through registration to demonstrate compliance?

The BMFA offer STEM projects, the biggest being the Flight Test Challenge (or whatever it's called now) but each BMFA area should have an Education Co-Ordinator. They are frequently contacted by educational establishments to help support projects such as this.

Educational bodies such as schools do not appear to be aware in this instance, and nor potentially are STEM bodies supporting the schools.

I agree with your comments on the Educational Lead and about the educational value in taking students through the registration process.

I suspect that as far as the 'Educational Lead's' are concerned that they are mainly rank and file teachers who don't have an outside work interest in model flying which does not help matters, but equally is possibly why we such limited promotion of after school hours activities for students these days in a number of activity areas.

However, as far as industry STEM bodies possibly now refusing to support projects. It is as much about the almighty mess made in the reporting, visibility and guidance of registration that has led to the adoption of a negative position.

It might help be offset if there is increased visibility or liaison by BMFA Education Co-Ordinators.

I know that in many instances opportunities only exist for activities in part by school/college/education staff being prepared to go the extra mile and the support of industry and sporting bodies that anything much happens these days.

07/01/2020 13:34:31

I know! We are all fed up with all the chat about registration etc. However, despite myself and I am sure others who raised their concerns about impacting STEM activities, I wonder how many are seeing the fallout now registration is live?

So I am a STEM Ambassador within my organisation, and talking to a fellow colleague they advised me of a project they are supporting for a local school. Said project is to design and build a model aircraft that can carry a camera. The team have been working on it since just before the announcement of the requirements, and are building their model. A lot of good work had been done by them to date. When I mentioned the need for Operator registration etc they were surprised.

This prompted communications within my organisation (which is multi-national) and there had been a general awareness and guidelines to avoid undertaking any such projects that involve model aircraft when registration requirements became more public.

I will not go in depth on this as there are some ongoing discussions but wondered how many others are involved in STEM and have already come across problems?

From what has come to light from within our own STEM people and liaisons with other organisations there are some issues and concerns for the future of STEM activities involving model aircraft.

Key observations:

Not all STEM individuals or organising bodies are aware of the registration.

Not all schools or colleges are aware of the need for registration.

Organisations supporting STEM activities are already blocking any such model aircraft based projects.

Responsibility for registration of operators? Should it be the project team/teacher and/or STEM support from industry, etc?

Apparently a few projects have already been blocked and sadly the team's enthusiasm lost as a consequence. This is not good for encouraging the next generation of engineers be it in model flying, aerospace, or engineering in general.

It would be good to know whether others have already encountered such issues and how they have overcome them. Equally I wonder if bodies such as the BMFA are already aware of the impact that is emerging?

Thread: Forum 2020 Mass Build discussion.
07/01/2020 13:09:11

Definitely the Gnat for me and Hunter for my son. I suspect that the Lightning and Hawk will follow although want to also do the Provost.

Thread: TN Hunter Plus
07/01/2020 13:07:50

Glad its the TN Mini Jets. I am about to start the Gnat for myself, and my son has the Hunter.

Thread: BMFA
18/12/2019 12:53:05

Amen from me on that. The BMFA gets a lot of stick at times but knowing of other battles in the past such as CB days etc I think they have managed a fair degree of damage (nee political) limitation which is not easy. One must hope that in time the government sees the ludicrous need and reverts back to previous practice.

In the meantime, well done BMFA I continue my membership and may everyone have a quiet and joyful Christmas.

Thread: Ed Kazmirski Taurus Aerobatic model
18/12/2019 12:47:57

Thanks for that info kc I always loved the Taurus as a youngster in my early years, and might have to build one for the fun of it.

Thread: Merry Christmas
18/12/2019 12:46:12

Wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas and wishes for the new year. May we all get fair weather and lots of flying in.

Thread: BMFA numbers. Is this true, or a gross exaggeration?
13/11/2019 12:56:59

Some very interesting and wide ranging comments. Realistically, the world and society evolves and changes. There are many other distractions for spare time these days, and some of the fascination in technologies i.e. aerospace lose some appeal. My son is very much a product of the modern era, yet he is interested in model flying and rc especially and is learning to fly because while he ight fly simulators etc he has seen that it is still very different doing the real thing. Numbers decline also, for things like cost of living, family priorities, etc, etc, etc.

One time, amateur radio was seen as popular and challenging (and also led to a number of people doing both radio and model flying, but these days there are far fewer people because communication is a lot easier by other ways and people cannot experiment like they used to, amongst various reasons.

Model flying has evolved and it is probably fair to say there are far fewer builders from scratch/plan or basic kit. Yet at the same time there is now a sizeable number who derive pleasure from ARTF's, and there are perceived to be fewer challenges to grab peoples attention or desire. Yet model flying has evolved a lot over the decades and is likely to continue to evolve.

Thread: David Vaughan P-51B
05/11/2019 13:12:43

I can't help following this thread out of interest, and must say the idea of the BMFA exhibiting some of David's creations as massively appealing, as along with separately perhaps those of some of the other greats like Mick Reeves for example.

As pointed out already the detailing on models has been superb over the years and really did take off from the mid/late 70's onwards I think in this country. Articles written by the likes of David, Mick, Brian Taylor and Gordon Whitehead I think re-focused many of us in efforts to detail our scale and even semi-scale models.

Aside from reminding those of us who were inspired originally, it might also newer generations?

Thread: TSR2
24/10/2019 12:51:01

Ah TSR2 another example of what happens when politicians meddle in things like aviation, the navy, army, roads, rail ....laugh

Thread: What are your three favourite war movies?
24/10/2019 12:46:43

My favourite three:

Battle of Britain

The Cruel Sea

The Dam Busters

Three others close behind being:

The Longest Day

Angels 15


Thread: Veneer lifting problems
15/10/2019 13:03:55

I have found that where the veneer has split or lifted that using copydex gives a stronger bond than PVA. This was advice I was given back in the early 80's when making and repairing foam wings, and has worked for me all these years when necessary. I always use dome weights to help hold the veneer down for a day or so to ensure a strong reliable bond.

With regard to finishing the wing I would opt for using glass cloth and epoxy resin rather than dope and nylon as if the wood is old it is likely to have more open pores allowing dope through to attack the foam.

Thread: 2019 Special Issue
02/10/2019 12:46:12

Personally I felt that the special is special as it is different from the normal issues. This is how it should be (thinking back in the past to such specials that set aside normal magazine content). Great work to the team for this month and I think it just goes to show there are many options for the builder and you do not need to have artf's or foamies.

Thread: August Nationals 2019
05/09/2019 13:18:06

I am surprised at the intolerance of some people over the fact that we get to use an active RAF base for our model flying activities. Despite notices as to limitations before site admittance there are always people who feel that if they get there early that they have a right to early access.

Please consider the fact that this is an operational RAF airfield. The station has to go through a number of activities many that may not be visible to the uninformed before they can release the site to us. Aircraft activities have to finish, the site made safe and also anything to do with security (and not just the perimeter fence and gates). At the same time please consider the fact that we have use of the site through the permission of the Commanding Officer, and that he is placing a great trust in us that we will treat the site considerately especially regarding rubbish and anything that is FOD that could affect aircraft (and crew safety), which the BMFA have to rigorously check before handing back to the RAF after the event. I have seen an aircraft lost because of a penny coin (and crew killed) while the pilot of another aircraft managed to save an aircraft and himself despite a piece of metal being ingested by an engine!

I know the weather was hot this year and that people probably wanted to get set up (campers and traders), but such attitudes by impatient people have the potential to dissuade the generosity of the RAF and the Station Commander. In other words do not take the site for granted. RAF and MoD personnel also have access to the gripes and moans that do get feedback.

The RAF and MoD have a duty of care for the site and operations and so do we.

Thread: Anyone know what happened to Kamco?
04/09/2019 13:14:18

Hi Rich, that will be great to see the Kamco name about again. There is no doubt that the range of kits were popular because they were good model designs, and as someone else has said, retro is becoming popular. Leccy and laser cut parts will certainly freshen up the kits and probably boost popularity. Good luck with the revival.

Thread: August Nationals 2019
26/08/2019 11:15:52

Took my son to the Nationals for the first time Saturday and stayed til late. Seeing the sheer joy and thrill of it all on him and his reactions brilliant!

Great location, great organisation, so well done BMFA and of course RAF.

Traders were good and very helpful so spent loads.

Flying is always great to watch and the Showline really delivered well, ably supported by the legendary Dave Bishop commentary.

The after show free flight and night flying is always FUN especially free flight.

Even the weather decided to be exceptionally nice for the bank holiday weekend.

To cap it all my teenage son who is learning to fly rc did not want to go home and now wants us to camp next t year and bring free flight models. I have been into aeromodelling well over 40 years and attended the Nationals a number of times but I personally felt this year was the best for all of the above but especially seeing my son's reaction and joy and increased interest in model flying. That has to be good as it his generation that are the future of our sport and hobby.

Thread: Brian Winch
25/08/2019 08:59:53

Sad news indeed to wake up to this morning at the Nationals. Brian's contribution to the hobby will be sorely missed as he had wise words that helped experienced and the novice modeller. RiP Brian, thanks for everything you will not be forgotten.

Thread: August Nationals 2019
23/08/2019 20:00:52

At least the weather is favourable for us this year. Here's to a great weekend.

Thread: Soarcerer for Flat Field
08/08/2019 22:42:03

The Soarceror has been a timeless classic because it is easy to build and it flies so well. Nearly all I have seen or flown have been off the slope so will be interested about flat field performance.

Thread: RCM&E September Issue.
05/08/2019 21:35:14

I for one also spotted the previously mentioned photo glitch, in Brian's column, but despite that found it a very useful article.

I also think David, Graham and Beth have done a great and often thankless job over the years and also welcome Kevin Crozier's return to the mag.

A great effort with this months issue and the Jet Provost plan is something I am going to build.

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