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Thread: Jet Provost 1.5metre Andy Blackburn PSS Plan
18/10/2019 21:30:36

This is the JPEG of the version I amended.


Previously I have printed out the image on photographic paper, but it is thick and leaves a white edge. After buying some matt printable vinyl, I uploaded it and printed it out then cut it out - perfect. Cut out the image then stuck it onto some 2mm balsa then cut out the edge - perfect.


18/10/2019 21:08:18

Made some progress with the cockpit. I have used the Dremmel to cut out F3 down to the top of the battery box and have used some 2mm cut offs from the wings to create a cockpit floor.

I have also found a better fascia, which is missing 2 bits but is better IMHO than the version we used for the smaller one. Will upload and post the version I have edited with Fireworks in case you want to use it.


Thread: F86 "Gamma" Build
18/10/2019 09:09:49

I've just been musing about planking (note the spelling), and have realised that in reality I am due another lost foam fibreglass fuselage, but it is too late now as I have bought the kit of parts, so if anyone wants a kit of parts, I am prepared to have a crack at it. Let me know. You can have it for the same cost as I paid, less the cost of the plan which I think is £10 which obviously I need. I think this really lends itself to a fibreglass fuselage.

Actually delete that as I realise I need the parts for the wing, so will have to keep thinking..hmmm.... will see how many parts I will be wasting - actually I can use the formers for inside the fuselage instead - brilliant...yes..hmm..(can hear cogs whirring...)..yes indeed, I think we have a plan Holmes....

Edited By Peter Garsden on 18/10/2019 09:12:40

Thread: Jet Provost 1.5metre Andy Blackburn PSS Plan
17/10/2019 21:22:53


Blocks all carved to shape ready for covering before being glued on - would be a filming nightmare with compound curves to negotiate otherwise.


Looks like a chap wot 'asn't been tut dentist tha' knows wi' 'is teeth all spikey?

Not very neat but they are just there for support of the upper surface - won't be seen as they will be covered by the underneath sheeting.

17/10/2019 15:21:17

Next the under wing air intake extensions, which I have carved from 3/4 balsa. Tricky. I used the same sand paper rubbing method to line up the intakes with the fuselage fairing


17/10/2019 15:19:45

This shows the fairing after pairing down with a David Plane and Permagrit files. Due to the raised hight by the bolt head it ended up very thin. A gap also appeared by the trailing edge join which I have filled with P38.


Notice the judicious use of masking tape to stop the plane taking off unwanted chunks from the fuselage.

Thread: Canberra by Andy Blackburn PSS
17/10/2019 12:46:15

You'll love it Phil. I do. Flies in most winds. I needed a bit extra nose weight and mixing some rudder in with the ailerons is important. About 4mm I found.

17/10/2019 12:46:13

You'll love it Phil. I do. Flies in most winds. I needed a bit extra nose weight and mixing some rudder in with the ailerons is important. About 4mm I found.

16/10/2019 11:36:47
Posted by John H. Rood on 15/10/2019 16:06:36:

Peter, today I saw this photo on Mr. Cooke's latest report; I'd call it JUST PLANE BEAUTIFUL !!!


Thread: PSSA Gliding Events 2019
16/10/2019 11:34:29

I'm glad you all enjoyed my left of field look at life. I wrote it a few days ago whilst listening to Lou Reed's Transformer Album - much recommended. Sorry if I missed anyone out.

I was thinking that next time we could squeeze Rocket Ron inside the fuselage of the Antonov and fly it to Conway mountain and back? Only joking of course - Snowden...doh...

Seriously though it was one of the best PSS days I can remember. Nearly finished the JP. Looking forward to starting the Sabre.

Thread: Jet Provost 1.5metre Andy Blackburn PSS Plan
14/10/2019 21:07:17

Next job is the tricky under wing sheeting, which is made from 2 sheets of 3/4 inch sheet. I actually ran out of 3/4, so the second sheet was 2 pieces of 3/8" laminated together.

The wing seat ply reinforcement, the wing bolt the dihedral of the wing, and the wing reinforcing tape all stand proud. and the wood needs to be recessed to fit round them.

Andy's helpful tip is to rub a 4B pencil lead on the edges then rub the wood over them to make marks. to cut round

I now need to use epoxy to fix them in position.




You can see that I have lined the under wing seating with cling film to stop the excess epoxy from sticking the wing to the fuselage.

Edited By Peter Garsden on 14/10/2019 21:09:41

13/10/2019 21:20:34

Next job is to cut out the cockpit profile. As I am going for a deeper cockpit I might put in some extra reinforcement, I don't know. I will definitely put in a floor. The question is what i do with F3 because it will have to be cut out . I think I can cut it right down and it won't affect the strength that much. I plan to cut it out and create a new former where the cockpit starts and the fascia sticks. We will see

I made a cardboard cockpit outline as you can see


God bless cardboard


13/10/2019 18:39:21

Have also been busy making decals from the very helpful photos sent to me by the Newcastle shared Jet Provost that I am copying based at Durham Airport - **LINK**. I emailed them and they were incredibly helpful. They have photographed all the decals close up for me. They also offered me a flight if I pay for the fuel. Couldn't be more obliging. They are also going to take a photo of hte cockpit for me.

I used my Vinyl Cutter to not only cut letters using their software but also print and cut on white vinyl. Worked reasonably well. I uploaded the images then put it through my printer then cut out the scrap. I had to do this for the airforce logos as they were to intricate to cut with a scalpel. The square ones I will simply score with a knife on white printable vinyl with a sticky backing, then the third sheet is clear sticky printable, which will show up against a white background of the top of the fuselage and the grey wing.


Some of the images I made with Adobe Fireworks - the stripey no step stickers on the right as I couldn't find an internet image. The black squares showing the fuel inlets I made with Microsoft Word

Edited By Peter Garsden on 13/10/2019 18:42:56

13/10/2019 18:29:17

OK will do Andy - chamfering next job. I will use my handy Proxxon mini sander - great tool.

Anyway - following on from Andy' advice on his blog, I have used carbon tows and cyano to bind the wires together instead of fuse wire - works really well, but the brass tube I bought is too small so will swop it for a bigger size.


11/10/2019 15:19:14


I have taken advice, listened to it, and followed it. Here is an extra piece of 1/8 ply on the underside of the wing not seen which will encourage the plastic bolt to snap instead of pulling out the bottom of the fuselage at least that is the theory. This is an addition to the plan.

10/10/2019 12:10:52


This shows the filler bottom piece sanded down to fit the fuselage side with the air intake overlaid. Andy suggests making these intakes detachable for covering but attached to the fuselage side temporarily with bamboo sticks. Great idea!


It is suggested that you start with a pin hole from the inside of the fuselage followed by enlargement with a 1/8" drill, then filling with 2 stubs of bamboo, then fitting to the fuselage.


The fuselage is lined with cling film to stop the air intake sticking to the fuselage sides. I am now going to trim down the filler pieces and line up with the fuselage contours before starting the other side.

10/10/2019 08:36:10

Back to the air intakes - again see Andy's blog which goes into much detail and is the one to follow. Here are the intakes carved and sanded to shape


They fit on the side of the fuselage above the wing and have to be fitted to the gradient of the wing dihedral. Underneath the fuselage is needed a filler to fit the contour of the curve - so how to do that - again, Andy has the answer


This is underneath the fuselage showing the gap to fill


Block of 3/4 inch balsa - long enough to cover the width of the intake and a piece of coarse sandpaper attached to the fuselage, then rub away until the underneath meets the piece of scrap balsa.


A gauge is rubbed away which can be trimmed in depth to cover the gap to be filled - clever tip and trick from the Blackburn stable...again.

08/10/2019 20:03:13

OMG so much balsa to remove with the plane. I filled a bin full of shavings. And I take it all back, the fuselage feels so much lighter as well. I have ordered some pilots and am going to do a deeper cockpit than on the small one as there is much more space.


Note the handy curved sanding tool, which Andy describes on his Canberra blog and which was made for the --Canberra. It is basically 2 pieces of cardboard bent over the fuselage and contact glued together then lined both sides with sandpaper - easier with a constant radius fus like the Canberra of course but still very useful.


If you have puzzled how the tailpipe is meant to be shaped, then this is it. Needs a bit more sanding of course

07/10/2019 17:47:07

Well there is a lot of planing and sanding to do to reduce this heavily padded fuselage down to size. Andy suggests in his Quiet and Electric Flight article that you mark off on the fuselage with pencil lines how far to sand to - eg at F6 the curve of the fuselage is 30mm down the side and the triangular stock is exposed to 10mm. This proved a brilliant tip and stops the anxiety of exposing too much.


07/10/2019 17:39:28

Well - to the air intakes which have to be carved to shape and fitted to the fuselage - tips and knack needed here, which I got from Andy's initial blog and this helped a lot - **LINK**. They are traced, or carbon paper templated onto cardboard as I did them from the plan


You will need 2 pieces of 4 inch width 3/4" balsa then a little bit added at the bottom - I used scrap from the blocking up process at the front of the fuselage. I have left them to dry as I used Aliphatic Resin.


Here you can see my Dremmel Scroll Saw which with all the thick sheet to cut up was worth its weight in gold then finished off with my sanding disc and belt sander combined which I bought from Axminster Tools for £75 which I thought was a bargain - now £84.95 -

Edited By Peter Garsden on 07/10/2019 17:44:11

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