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Member postings for Andy Symons - BMFA

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Thread: Upcoming BMFA Achievement scheme workshop and roadshow!
10/08/2019 09:47:58

Achievement scheme workshops and roadshows are a great way to keep up with whats going on with the BMFA Achievement Scheme.

There is an examiners, instructors and candidates workshop on Saturday 7th September at Woodspring Wings MAC, these workshops are a great way to meet other examiners and instructors and to compare notes, well worth the effort to attend. For more details and to reserve your space see


Then on 5th October the Achievement Scheme Review Committee will be hosting a Roadshow at The Ship Inn, Thornbury Rd, Alveston, Bristol BS35.

We are very please to announce that David Phipps, BMFA CEO, will be joining us for the Roadshow to discuss the latest regulatory changes and how they may affect model aircraft flying and the achievement scheme. This will be an ideal opportunity to find out the very latest position and ask any questions you may have.

For details and to reserve your place see **LINK**

Thread: Getting New Members
30/07/2019 07:21:09

Excellent work Cliff (and Cymaz) getting out to see the general public really does work in both letting them know what we do but also in recruiting new blood, following these types of static displays up with a club open day where people you talk to can come along and have a go using the buddy box has really worked well this year for clubs that have done so. Keep up the good work. We will be expanding the Flightfest theme for 2020 as it has worked well for clubs. If any clubs needs any assistance contact the BMFA office and we can send promo stuff, print posters, come and try vouchers etc etc, also get the simulator to you if its at all possible.

Thread: BMFA Buckminster Fly-in, August 2nd - 4th
23/07/2019 18:43:49

Just a reminder about the next Fly-in at BMFA Buckminster, not long now!!

Should be a fantastic weekend, focus is on relaxing flying and fun!

It is okay to just turn up but it would be helpful if you are planning on camping to let us know in advance using the booking form at **LINK**

Thread: Cyclists Amongst Us
11/07/2019 12:31:59

I have a Giant Defy Advanced Pro carbon roadie for serious riding, its the one I did the 100 miler on to raise money for the Air ambulance a couple of years ago. Also got a Whyte Suffolk roadie which I put 32mm tyres on for audaxes and more leisure riding.

Been a bit too busy to get out much this year though. sad

Thread: Commons Science and Technology Committee Enquiry on Drones
09/07/2019 18:40:37
Posted by Cliff Bastow on 09/07/2019 18:28:59:

We are doomed lads!

Did anyone else notice that within three years all uavs will have to carry electronic identification devices?

Sigh! No we really aren't doomed.

Thread: BMFA Buckminster Fly-in, August 2nd - 4th
26/06/2019 16:39:58

After the success of last years ASRC hosted fly-in at Buckminster we are doing it all again this year.
A relaxed fly-in, no certificates required for under 7kg but a great opportunity to seek guidance or attempt a test as we will have examiners and instructors on hand.

No gas turbines due to standing crops.

Edited By Andy Symons - BMFA on 26/06/2019 16:40:38

Thread: How does a BMFA Country Member get an A Certificate?
25/06/2019 15:46:58
Posted by FilmBuff on 25/06/2019 15:24:51:
Posted by will -0 on 25/06/2019 15:24:06:

Roughly where in the country are you? You may find there's someone on here who could recommend a local friendly spot!

Good point. I'm based in Northampton.

No problem at all in taking an A or B cert at Buckminster. Why not come along to the next Achievement Scheme Hosted fly-in which will be taking place over the weekend of 3rd & 4th August.

Thread: Is it now time for cyclists to wear an identifier and pay a tax?
21/06/2019 14:59:01

Perhaps pedestrians should hvae insurance too?

Many cyclists actually do have insuran anyway.

21/06/2019 14:03:59

The majority of cyclists already pay a lot of tax.

Thread: Where to fly?
30/05/2019 21:24:54

Liverpool and District Model Aircraft Society



Edited By Andy Symons - BMFA on 30/05/2019 21:25:30

Thread: Interesting reply from email to Richard Moriarty, CAA
30/05/2019 13:23:59

Plaudits should go to the BMFA CEO who is leading the fight and doing atremendous amount of work on this both in Europe and the UK

Plenty of responses needed but also positivity when talking about this with your mates. The doom and gloom and talk of not going through all the extra hassle will simply put people off when we should all still be encouraging people to take up are rather wonderful sport.

30/05/2019 12:45:56

Latest from the BMFA CEO at **LINK**

Representatives of the UK Model Flying Associations met with the CAA yesterday afternoon (29th May 2019).

The meeting was constructive, but without any real breakthrough to report at this stage.

The CAA were only able to discuss potential options within the restrictive policy framework dictated by the DfT. One such option is the possibility of the Associations registering as Operators, which would save members paying the £16.50 registration fee, but all members flying any model over 250g would still be required to take a free CAA theory test every 3 years. There is however further exploratory work to do on this option before it could be confirmed as a viable way forward and it would still be far from satisfactory.

Model Flying is now within the CAA’s Small Unmanned Aircraft Unit rather than their General Aviation Unit and there was an undertaking to meet on a quarterly basis, rather than on the current annual basis. The Associations welcome this development, especially at the present time.

There remains a great deal of detail to resolve before the 2018 ANO changes come into effect at the end of November this year and this issue is compounded by the six months lost due to the DfT/CAA ‘stone walling’ us since November 2018. It is regrettable that it has taken the direct action of our members to force the resumption of meaningful dialogue.

We would like to thank all those members who have supported our campaign so far, the CAA has received approximately 6000 responses from model association members. If you have not yet responded to the consultation, please do so before it closes next week. Full details of the consultation and how to respond can be found here: **LINK**

A considerable number of members have expressed their dissatisfaction at the ‘standard’ response they have received from the CAA which in many cases does little or nothing to address their specific concerns or indicate that they have even been read. We would encourage any member dissatisfied with the response they have received to raise a formal complaint through the CAA’s complaints process (rather than as a personal communication to the CEO), details of which you can find here:**LINK**.

Similarly, a significant number of members have also expressed their dissatisfaction with the ‘standard’ response they have received from the DfT and in this instance we would encourage members to re-submit their concerns with a complaint that they have not been adequately addressed. Details of how to submit a complaint to the DfT can be found here**LINK**.

We will be meeting with the Minister next week, but for now our 'Call to Action' remains very much in place.

29/05/2019 21:05:17
**post removed - forum language infringement**

Could I suggest not making any hasty decisions just yet, there is a long way to go and a lot of effort is going into the fight, it may will be that the final position means hardly any hassle at all. It is far too soon to be predicting doom!

Edited By David Ashby - Moderator on 30/05/2019 05:57:12

Thread: Poll for who intends to register.
18/05/2019 09:33:57
Posted by Martin Harris on 17/05/2019 23:50:20:

Threatening to flout the law could be interpreted as being much the same as the irresponsible faction that have brought about the excuse for this legislation. The commercial interests driving the process would love to see us painted in the same light.

Nail hit firmly on the head there.

Thread: CAA registration consulation
14/05/2019 16:20:12



Following a meeting that the BMFA's CEO had with the DfT, CAA and other aviation bodies last Friday, the CAA has now been in contact to request a meeting to discuss the BMFA's position on their proposal and explore possible resolutions.

But... the CAA must work within policy that is given to them by the DfT. A change of policy needs to come from the DfT in order to fully address the BMFA's concerns.

Hopefully you have now all read the letter that came with your latest issue of the BMFA News, covering the reasons why the BMFA rejects the CAA proposal.

It is imperative that you write to both the Aviation Minister, Baroness Vere of Norbiton and your local MP to voice your concerns and make your feelings felt. Please do this in a polite but robust way. This will give the BMFA's CEO the best chance of success in making your feelings know when he meets with the Aviation Minister, hopefully influencing the needed policy change.


Please see the letter with your copy of the BMFA News, or click on the link below for the Aviation Minister's email address along with how to contact your local MP.


United We Achieve...

Thread: What BMFA Flightfest is all about
14/05/2019 11:54:35
Posted by SIMON CRAGG on 14/05/2019 09:05:26:

Well done Andy, I'll be sending you an article for the BMFA News about our "Flightfest" activities with our local ATC Sqn. Just had our first junior member join in a long all is not doom and gloom!.

Excellent stuff! I think we have proved the "Flightfest" concept works, new blood is out there, just a matter of going out there and grabbing it. We will be expanding the concept and having more events like we held at Buckminster too.

The two pictures were consecutive flights, neither having flown model aircraft before. Over the weekend we gave trial flights to over 40 people who had never flown a model aircraft before, including a group of scouts.

A great use of BMFA Buckminster

We have heard from a couple of clubs who also held Flightfest events over the weekend with great success too. All very promising.

13/05/2019 21:57:25

Thread: CAA registration consulation
07/05/2019 18:49:04


Once again we would like to thank members for their efforts responding to the CAA consultation and writing to the Aviation Minister, CAA CEO and your local MP.

We know a number of members have arranged meetings with their local MP which is a fantastic way of ensuring their engagement with the issue.

If you have a meeting arranged with your MP please email and we can provide you with information and guidance which will be useful to you during your meetings.

If you haven't yet completed the consultation or written to the parties mentioned earlier please consider doing so, every response and letter helps.

Once again thank you for your support

All at the BMFA

04/05/2019 11:00:09
Posted by John Privett on 04/05/2019 10:57:18:

That's a promising start, Andy! I've circulated that to all our club members (after circulating them the original announcement last week.)

I've also seen links to a petition on -

What are your thoughts on this? Should we be encouraging people to sign that too?

The petition in question is certainly not official in any way, however it is a personal matter as to whether you support it.

We already have routes for asking the Government questions through the APPG for General Aviation (**LINK**). There is a meeting with them on Friday.

The danger with petitions is that experience suggests that people sign them and feel they’ve done their bit. They all then receive the same standard response at the push of a button. The Government love them!

Writing in individually creates for more irritation and aggravation because they actually have to do something and that’s why we’ve taken the course we have. The CAA’s CEO and Aviation Minister will be having their inboxes filled with emails from our members hopefully, so it will be create far more impact than a petition which they may not even see.

We may consider a petition at some stage, but our view is that at this point it would dilute and undermine what we are trying to achieve.

(response unshamefully plagiarised from an email response by the CEO to the same question that I wholeheratedly agree with)

04/05/2019 10:15:39

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