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Thread: Sabre Rattling time
12/11/2019 22:51:42

Hi Ade, yes sure. I actually get a friend to print them for me as I haven't taken the plunge yet. But the beauty of this design is that they will fit any servo and are not restricted by spline size/type.

Should be able to mount all four servos in the wing root, with the RDS rods at 45 degrees to the surfaces.

Cheers

Danny

12/11/2019 22:09:25

Hi Martin, you are talking to someone that is fanatical about saving weight

I hope to use RDS for both the flaps and the ailerons, possibly even the rudder too. never used RDS for a rudder this model should prove a good platform to try that and my new 3D printed RDS adaptors.

I noticed on Daves Sabre thread you talked about stencils, if anybody does the Luftwaffe Sabres I am happy to share the masks I cut, if it helps somebody else

Put in my SLEC order today, not quite as cheap as I expected, but what the heck, you can't take it with you.....

Cheers

Danny

Thread: S1581 Hawker Nimrod MkI
12/11/2019 21:21:46

Well I know you can't wait.....if you can't sleep this is for you

12/11/2019 20:14:31

Okay the tissue video is in the can, will be online shortly. really only to be viewed if you cannot sleep, its an hour long and took three times that to film and edit...... Still it is keeping the old skills, or at least my take on them alive.

There was so much more I could have said, but never mind......

I have spent the day doing lots of tissue work, almost getting the hang of it now

While I was busy working, these two reprobates sank up to their elbows in my building board.....

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Many thanks to Dave Banks, once again creating some real works of art

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 12/11/2019 20:15:51

Thread: MF's Hawker Fury Mk1
12/11/2019 20:09:04

Looks great Martin, you are definitely getting the hang of this

Cheers

Danny

Thread: S1581 Hawker Nimrod MkI
12/11/2019 13:45:41

I contacted Mike last night and he said he had some Esaki lightweight left, but not much. A bit of green apparently. £18 a pack, which I think is roughly a sq/mtr.

The Silk that Bill pointed me too is made by Harrington, I had to ring them and ask for the specific type as it is not on the website.

4202i is the catalogue number you need Martyn. Not a lot cheaper than Mike, so it is up to you.

I am in the middle of making a video showing the stuff in action. Hopefully be online later today.

Cheers

Danny

12/11/2019 09:53:34

Sometimes I really do worry about my sanity. Several months ago I spent a small fortune on silks trying to match Esaki. I have covered the centre section in the same rubbish I did the cabane struts in.... Doh!! I have just rummaged through my silks and have covered the rudder in another silk that looks right but i think is polyester as it fluffs like crazy. Still not right.

I just waded back through the thread and we have been through all this and I ended up contacting Bill Dennis, who pointed me at Haringtons, as Alan had done..... I really don't know how I remember to get up some days.

Anyway am about to tissue the tailplane, and we will try the Harringtons silk with wallpaper paste on that.... stand by.

I may even video the process for Martin

Cheers

Danny

Thread: Sabre Rattling time
11/11/2019 22:46:11

Thanks chaps, obviously this all adds complication and additional servos..... all increasing the wing loading. But I appreciate you sharing your experience and will do as you suggest.

Cheers

Danny

Thread: S1581 Hawker Nimrod MkI
11/11/2019 21:39:20

Thanks for the terrif comments Chaps, but to prove once again Martian I am completely falable the silk is not right. And is really rough. Even after a couple of coats of dope

I should have started with a known constant and that is genuine Esaki silk. Learning a new technique with the wrong materials is fraught with perils. It doesn't matter too much in this instance as this section is under the wing, a bit out of sight and I am learning.

I have a much finer weave silk, probably still not the right stuff, which I have just tried to attach to the rudder, it is at least smoother, but I had to use dope to stick it down. And all the sages say Wallpaper paste is easier than dope. So again this isn't quite right. I am tempted to contact Mike Woodhouse of free flight supplies and see if he has some Esaki silk, I could at least perfect the technique, even if it is just on the rudder

Anyway if it were easy everybody would do it!

Cheers

Danny

11/11/2019 17:12:19

Take two........

Applied one coat of 50/50 on the underside of the top wing centre section. This was than overlaid with my Ebay silk with about an inch overlap. I took a full jar of water and added probably a teaspoon of wallpaper paste (probably too much as the paste ended up quite thick)

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Then brushed a line lengthwise down the panel. I then brushed from that centre-line, forwards then backwards, giving a generous coating. I could feel the tissue underneath was sagging a bit, so care needs to be taken.

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Once done it doesn't look great. The silk seemed to kind of form tiny waves, or undulations. I had heard that it doesn't look good at first and you just have to be patient.....fingers crossed.....

Cheers

Danny

11/11/2019 17:09:02

Thats quite funny Martyn, your posts saying you can't see them actually shows them lolol

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I will re do the whole post lol

Thread: Sabre Rattling time
11/11/2019 16:53:14

Thanks Martin, now you have me pondering. So if I understand "crow" means flaps down and ailerons up? Forgive my ignorance Martin crook

Cheers

Danny

Thread: S1581 Hawker Nimrod MkI
11/11/2019 16:43:30

Try that, the upload facility went awol, and had to delete and then reload.

 

Edited By Danny Fenton on 11/11/2019 16:43:53

11/11/2019 16:40:31

Applied one coat of 50/50 on the underside of the top wing centre section. This was than overlaid with my Ebay silk with about an inch overlap. I took a full jar of water and added probably a teaspoon of wallpaper paste (probably too much as the paste ended up quite thick)

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Then brushed a line lengthwise down the panel. I then brushed from that centre-line, forwards then backwards, giving a generous coating. I could feel the tissue underneath was sagging a bit, so care needs to be taken.

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Once done it doesn't look great. The silk seemed to kind of form tiny waves, or undulations. I had heard that it doesn't look good at first and you just have to be patient.....fingers crossed.....

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 11/11/2019 16:44:24

11/11/2019 12:14:49

Hi Martin, thanks for posting, was a bit like a Pink Floyd lyric, "is there anybody out there"

I really enjoy applying tissue and I can do it very quickly these days.

As I cannot find a video on silk over tissue, I was thinking of doing a video of the process, applying tissue and then the silk. What do you reckon? worth the effort???

But the quick version:

The air-frame is given a coat of sanding sealer and a light sanding with 400

The tissue I cut over size by about an inch, laid over the airframe.

I use a fine mist atomiser and mist water onto the tissue, I get it fairly wet.

This allows me to gently pull all the wrinkles out and get some tension.

I then use full strength dope quickly applied around the edges, pulling a little tension if wrinkles appear.

I usually start with a long edge first like a leading edge. Withe a wing probably a couple of inch section in the leading edge then the trailing edge, working towards the tips. If you get wrinkles fresh dope will soften the bind and you can lift and tease the tissue taut.

The trick is speed. If the tissue does dry a quick mist of water helps, but it can also cause the tissue to sag. Ideally it should stay wet until you are all the way around. As it dries it shrinks and thats when the wrinkles appear if you haven't stuck the perimeter down.

Cheers

Danny

10/11/2019 22:17:15

A few little jobs completed today.

Anchor point for the tail-plane struts, just a short piece of 1/4 hardwood dowel.

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Managed to fit the stern-post and work out how that integrates with the fin. I couldn't understand the reason for the wider section, and in the end sanded it to match the rear of the fin crook I am sure it will be fine.

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I also looked at the tail surface and filled in either side of the hinge slots, to give a larger surface to glue to.

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I tissued the underside of the top wing centre section, as this has to be compete on the underside, fitted before the upper surface can go on. Because of the three part wing the outer ribs needed to have been much stiffer to resist the tissue, and later silk, distorting the ribs and pulling them out of shape. I have added some bracing to hopefully eliminate some of this, however the full size doesn't exactly have perfect joints in this area either.

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I added .5mm carbon rod to the trailing edges of the rudder and elevators, hopefully making them slightly more ding proof, and to allow a sharper edge without being weak..

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I then tissued the rudder, seemed a shame not to as I had the brush out

Cheers

Danny

Thread: Simon's F-86 Sabre of the Patrullia Ascua.
09/11/2019 22:06:48

Sounds like a sensible plan to me Simon I will follow you with balsa spars.

I can see you have a bottle of titebond will you use that for the wing construction? I usually use thin CA but I know that will penetrate through the sheeting and stick the wing skins to the jig crook So may use an aliphatic or pva.

Cheers

Danny

Thread: Sabre Rattling time
09/11/2019 22:01:50

Thanks Peter, being a novice I don't know how much these models need to be slowed down before arrival.

I think I will keep it simple..... those that know me may wonder, if that is indeed possible crook

Thoughts on the rudder?

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 09/11/2019 22:02:19

Edited By Danny Fenton on 09/11/2019 22:03:35

Thread: Tony's F-86 Sabre Build
09/11/2019 20:19:20

Looking good Tony

Cheers

Danny

Thread: Sabre Rattling time
09/11/2019 12:28:39

Well the postie delivered the goods and everything is very nicely packaged and labelled.

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Cant wait to get started. Looking at the plan, rudder and flaps are optional, are they worth the extra work when you are sloping? Are there real benefits? I can perhaps see the benefit of brakes??

I will replace most of the soft block with blue foam as I will be glassing the model.

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 09/11/2019 12:38:29

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