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Thread: FrSky Major Update for most TX and RX
19/01/2020 12:47:12

Mike B

Interesting what you found with early Taranis. My Taranis is pre plus. It is the one just after the initial model. So, I surmise from this discovery that updating more than likely becomes a non starter. Even more so as I don't use EU LBT and don't want to. The more who use LBT the more, RF speaking, they'll make way for my transmissions.


From my quick scans of the other forums it does seem to be related to LBT(correction from those who know better welcomed). A phrase used to describe LBT I saw in the past likened it thus, 'a mutual and polite degradation of service for users as band usage increases'. Unfortunately in a real time active situation like model flying you can't afford too much degradation of service. Could the FrSky users on the continent be generally operating in areas of greater band traffic/usage(near urban areas) and thus suffering this 'degradation of service'(increased skipped data transmission due to more busy frequency slots) resulting in this deficiency in error detection becoming noticeable? Or, is the up date to the servos position slowing down to such an extent that a momentary 'failsafe' is occurring that would look like a spurious position command? Additionally, I would guess that not all the other band traffic(non RC) is LBT. Due to our 'anti social' status in the UK we generally fly in out of the way locations. Have there been any reports of this problem here? IMO this makes a good argument for users who can to remain non LBT.

As a general observation FrSky, to my mind, seems to be using this as an 'opportunistic' way of implementing a degree of obsolescence to complement their brand 'lock in' by way of 'ACCESS' thereby enhancing their commercial position.

17/01/2020 21:13:43

Well I'm in a bit of quandary. Got an early Taranis on an early OpenTx which needs to be updated to work a multi protocol Tx plug in module, the module also needs to be brought up to the latest spec. The module has various useful protocols including LBT (required for my Meteor65 SE indoor FPV quad). Also got a new Jumper T16 running OpenTx with an internal multi protocol Tx board, both of which need updating as I seem to have a problem on set up, AETR and mode 2 selected swaps aileron and rudder on Rx outputs.. I was aiming to get them all up to the same spec before using. For all other use I only run RoW RF on FrSky not LBT. I have many D series Rx and X series Rx which I don't want to loose the use of or go through the considerable trouble of re flashing. Plus, I have 'D' TX modules for my Futaba Tx's and a spare 'X' external module for the Taranis. I need to retain compatibility throughout. I've been to the OpenTx site and read the publication dated 15/1/20 but, is the problem just with the Tx operating system, or with the RF system as well? Looks like I've chosen the wrong time to get new bits and update. I'm drowning in update options. I could just sit back and hopefully let things sort themselves out and get a clearer picture but I've got itchy fingers. As I know the Taranis etc all works I'm thinking I'll start with the Jumper T16 due to its odd channel behaviour and work on logically from there. Unless anyone has a better idea. Is there any further info and whether updating affects earlier protocols?

17/01/2020 19:07:15

Oh how I long for those past times when you bought a Tx and Rx plus additional Rx and just kept on using. Now it seems a constant treadmill of chasing ones own backside updating firmware. Its become a hobby in its own right.

Thread: Old Keil Kraft kits
15/01/2020 19:44:40

Steven Jones, a tracing of the larger parts(fuselage, wings, etc) and photo copies of the smaller parts put together and submitted to Outerzone would be welcomed by all of us. The guy who runs the site can do quite a lot with the info/plans/drawings he receives. I myself have submitted various plans and books. Its good to get all we can saved and made available to all before it gets lost in the mists of time. If you contact him by email he'll advise what is required contact

Thread: New FPV microcam/FPV cam 31 gms, water resistant
13/01/2020 22:59:30

Google 'Freemake Video Converter', and 'Freemake Video Downloader' if you want to 'rip' YouTube videos.

Thread: The Gov't, CAA, BMFA & UAV legislation thread
06/01/2020 06:52:57
Posted by i12fly on 05/01/2020 21:39:37:

Only muppets won't register -it could damage the good work of the BMFA and jeopardise the next stage

devil cheeky wink

OK, I'll get my coat

and those who only fly CL and/or sub 250g? Or, do you class these people the same?

Edited By GONZO on 06/01/2020 06:53:22

05/01/2020 19:46:46

It equates to it exactly. In both instances if you have doubts about the legality of either then the correct approach is to report it to some one who has the authority to insist on proof of legal compliance. Taking the law into ones own hands can give rise to derision at best and unforeseen potentially unpleasant events at worst..

05/01/2020 18:11:27

Further to my previous post. The correct procedure would be for any club member, including committee members, to call the police and report a possible infringement. As just members of the general public no one has the right to demand any information/proof from any one else, they do not have that authority. They can only request and if the request is not granted report it to the authorities.

05/01/2020 17:59:21

Ha Ha john. But, as can be seen from some attitudes expressed here it will cause an atmosphere of mistrust and suspicion and possibly anger at the field. I can see a situation where some one is flying a sub 250g plane and then being ordered to prove it is sub 250g. In that situation I would demand that they in return prove their car is insured, taxed and if necessary MOT'ed as I will be using the same roads as them. This is the very reason why the BMFA stated that neither they or the affiliated clubs would be policing the legislation.

05/01/2020 17:29:50

You only have to have your models labeled up with your reg number when you FLY it, not just to own it and keep it at home or have it in the car or even at the flying field. It does not infringe the legislation unless it is flown without you being registered as the operator, the number on the model and you having attained a competency qualification.. The key action is FLYING the model.

Thread: FrSky Taranis - user chat
05/01/2020 12:40:54


Thread: The Gov't, CAA, BMFA & UAV legislation thread
05/01/2020 11:26:56

Martin_K, AFAIK there is no 'Air traffic management used by maned aviation' unless it is in controlled airspace(commercial main airports, air lanes etc) and that would be by commercially qualified pilots flying suitably equipped aircraft. GA manned flying in open airspace is 'uncontrolled'. As an example from when I was flying planes out of a farm strip in East Anglia I rarely spoke to anyone on the radio and the plane did not have a transponder. I flew all over the East of England and frequently flew to the Isle of Wight for a day out. When I flew to Holland I took off and filled my flight plan over the radio, a requirement to file a flight plan as I was transiting international flight regions. But, I was not directed or controlled throughout my flight by any ground based controller. It seems to me that there is a push to impose a very much tighter control on UAV's than manned flight.

Thread: FrSky Taranis - user chat
05/01/2020 11:04:49

I have a Taranis on a very early OpenTx. Can I use this multi protocol module used in the Jumper T16 Jumper 4 in 1 SE Multi protocol in my X9D Taranis after updating the OpenTx. I presume that this module is derived from the one in the RCGroups thread DIY Multiprotocol Tx Module (over a 1000 pages of info and things get buried).


Thread: The Gov't, CAA, BMFA & UAV legislation thread
05/01/2020 09:19:37

Why are people so keen to check on their fellow fliers, acting as unofficial/un paid police and take on the responsibility of enforcement of this pointless legislation? Even to the extent of asking, no demanding that they prove their compliance! Do you check your neighbours car tires to make sure they are legal. Do you ask/demand he prove he is insured/taxed/ has a valid MOT when you see him getting in his car. I would suggest that the car situation is of a more important nature than this idiotic registration as thousands die on the roads each year when not even one dies from a modelling accident on the flying field.

05/01/2020 09:01:26

The threat effect is what it was designed to do. That and the checking on other modellers by modellers and snitching on them or ostracising them, as demonstrated by the attitudes displayed in this thread. It's all in the best traditions of a totalitarian communist state of the cold war era where neighbours and even family members spied on each other and then denounced them to the state.

04/01/2020 21:16:02

Do you not drive? There are people who do not wish to insure/tax/have an MOT on their cars that drive on the roads. Are you not going to drive because of that. The probability of an uninsured accident whilst driving is very much higher than having an accident whilst flying, that's why model accident insurance is so low. Been at this since the mid 70's and have never seen or had an accident worthy of a claim.

Thread: Hobby Porter
03/01/2020 16:01:47

Decided it was worth a punt so ordered one. I've also been looking at the ZOHD Kopilot from Banggood ZOHD Kopilot Looks to be similar but without the D8R Rx compatible integrated in the main package. Both items are dedicated fixed wing items which I think may prove useful in stabilising sub 250g planes.Tempted to get the ZOHD Dart FPV ZOHD Dart The FPV version comes with everything except Rx and batteries. No registration required until 1/7/20 then to stay legal would have to remove FPV camera. I've done a search on here but no threads on the ZOHD Kopilot but 'Painless360' on YouTube has done some videos on it 5 videos.

02/01/2020 16:32:05

Hobby Porter

The FR810 is an 8ch flight controller with GPS and a built in FrSky D8R compatible Rx. Rx + GPS 18.8gm total weight. Looks interesting as its designed for fixed wing. Could be useful for sub 250gm 400ft distance limit with its 'geo-fencing', 'return to home' and 'loiter' capability??

Anyone have any experience or info on it?

Edited By GONZO on 02/01/2020 16:32:43

Thread: CAA announce New drone trials !
29/12/2019 18:25:15

Steve J, thanks for the link. I'm sure I remember some larger organisation that dealt with the rules and regulations for all forms of aviation, jet passenger down to light aviation, internationally/world wide.

29/12/2019 18:20:05
Posted by Gary Manuel on 29/12/2019 17:41:41:
Posted by Steve J on 29/12/2019 09:09:39:
Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 28/12/2019 23:33:16:

Is this not a solution?

Listing long standing sites in section ENR 5.5 of the Aeronautical Information Publication would make more sense to me (they do this in a few neighbouring countries). The 13 sites with permission for 7+kg over 400ft are already listed in the AIP.

Absolutely agree. Let each model flying site be registered as a no fly zone for all other aircraft. We fly inside the zone and others keep well away from it. This would by the way also make model / flyer registration even more pointless.

Their not going to do that, they want your money. I would suggest more, much more than at the moment. Site assessment fees, site registration fees(annual), operator fees(still wanted and increasing),possible test fees, I'm sure people can think of more.

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