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Thread: CAA announce New drone trials !
28/12/2019 14:38:23
Posted by Steve J on 28/12/2019 11:32:34:
Posted by GONZO on 28/12/2019 11:08:34:

Posted by Steve J on 28/12/2019 09:18:03:

The US Remote ID proposal is significantly worse than what is in the EU regulations.

Steve J, are you that optimistic that you believe, given the past history of DfT/CAA, that comes 'remote identification' here it will not be at least as bad.

Yes. Mainly because, based on a quick scan though the document, I don't think that the FAA proposal is viable.

But your next post would seem to indicate that it has been made workable in two countries(France and Ireland) and therefore could be made workable in the USA and also here.

28/12/2019 11:08:34
Posted by Steve J on 28/12/2019 09:18:03:
Posted by GONZO on 28/12/2019 08:43:49:

USA $5(less than £4) for 3 years; UK was to be £16.50(just under $21.50) dropped to £9(just under $12) but for only 1 year.

The current US system is $5 per person. The system being proposed by the FAA is $5/UAS.

The US Remote ID proposal is significantly worse than what is in the EU regulations.

Steve J, are you that optimistic that you believe, given the past history of DfT/CAA, that comes 'remote identification' here it will not be at least as bad. I regretfully do not share that optimism if that is the case.

28/12/2019 08:43:49

I see no reason for optimism when it comes to the way we'll be treated in the UK, in fact quit the opposite. Amongst many other incidents that displays the attitude towards modellers take the registration(tax) situation. USA $5(less than £4) for 3 years; UK was to be £16.50(just under $21.50) dropped to £9(just under $12) but for only 1 year. Even with the reduced fee(tax) it still means we pay 7X the USA rate. IMO the attitude will continue with remote identification for UK models.

Edited By GONZO on 28/12/2019 08:54:16

26/12/2019 18:49:13

Mr MPW You only have to view a few of this chaps(school operator and owner) videos to see that all this system of rules and regulations is orientated towards multi rotors and commercial/business operations. IMO he seems to be almost salivating at the thought of extra cash flow.

26/12/2019 18:36:21

NOT a SUAV This is not a remote control model. Rather it is a sub 70kg foot launched aircraft with the flight controls operated via a RC Tx. Of course if he took it off his back and flew it 3rd person LOS then it would fall under the requirements of DRES. But, as shown and if flown in this country no licence, no registration, no test, etc . Just buy/make and fly.

26/12/2019 18:26:49

Fit these drones with LIDAR(already been done in other countries) and you can monitor the UK and its inhabitants in ALL manner of ways.

Thread: The Gov't, CAA, BMFA & UAV legislation thread
20/12/2019 14:04:10
Posted by Martin_K on 20/12/2019 13:38:46:

I am not avoiding legislation, I am complying with it as I see fit, i.e. until the exact implementation of the EASA rules are known I will hedge my bets.

yes Exactly, plus I thought I'd give CL a try as I've never done it. 1st July and the 'flavour' of discussions .should give an idea of the way things may be going

20/12/2019 12:26:30
Posted by Nigel R on 20/12/2019 12:14:29:

what if we don't have a passport?

(mine's simply due for renewal, before you ask)

"there is an increasing movement towards drones that avoid legislation by weighing in at 249g"

And they have FPV capability.

If they have any information gathering device 'fitted'(doesn't have to be used) like a camera/microphone then you will have to register and pay the model tax.

04/12/2019 19:05:42

Steve J well a quick scan of that document confirms, at least to me, that the majority of us are just required for now to help with the set up costs. In a few years most of us will be squeezed out, seen as an inconvenience, by increased regulation and cost unless some special provisions are made. I know my view does not find favour with most on here but then this has been my view from the start when everyone believed nothing was going to change. I hope time proves me wrong and others right.

04/12/2019 11:52:49

Competent is generally used to define ones ability/skill as a pilot and should not be conflated with the CAA 's 'high jacking' of the term to describe their test.

Lets expand this theoretical incident to include a situation less 'black and white' where a member, who you know did not register as an operator, is flying a plane you suspect is 1/ slightly over the 250gm limit(small foamy) and 2/ could in your visual assessment be about 500gm(open structure vintage'ish). What do you do? Do you have some scales with you? Are you going to photograph the plane and club member then start a full inquiry with the club committee? Are you going to push the committee to start a process of weighing planes and keeping records? These possible situations are fraught with problems. From causing bad feeling when the accusation is wrong to possible physical confrontation.

02/12/2019 20:18:41

My word, I've got to put my stick in the hornets nest and give it a good poke. Give people an opportunity to don their 'jobsworth' hats and become little official inspectors and their off. The BMFA made it perfectly clear in one of their news letters: (I'll para phrase slightly) NO POLICING BY THE BMFA, NO POLICING BY THE CLUBS, ITS PERSONAL RESPOSABILITY. Why make more work/potential trouble for ourselves?

Bee hornet keepers outfit on, it's made from titanium.

27/11/2019 11:50:13
Posted by Martin_K on 27/11/2019 11:32:56:

If you have upset your neighbour, and the neighbour follows CAA advice, they will make a non-emergency call to the police.

smileysmileysmileysmiley Have you ever used that? I have and you generally wait at least 4hr for a response, generally its the next day if at all. Most times now the police don't even respond to a burglary 999 call, they just give you a crime number.

Sub 250gm site/airspace/distance requirements are contained in the table on page 32 of CAP 1789 (with no agreed concessions it starts 1/7/2020)

25/11/2019 21:47:23

BMFA advised against this in a previous news letter. They also said that they, the BMFA, would not participate in any 'policing' of the DRES

22/11/2019 09:21:11
Posted by Steve J on 21/11/2019 17:00:10:

Posted by Martin_K on 21/11/2019 16:57:39:

As has been said umpteen times in these threads, pilots with a Flyer ID will no longer be able to claim ignorance of the law.

Whereas people with a twenty year old BMFA 'A' will .

My A cert will be 40 years old comes April 2020surprisesmileysmiley

20/11/2019 21:00:25

Alan, I'm not saying you should not comply with DRES if your personal balance of desire against principle so decrees. It's just the eagerness that has been displayed, contrary to the BMFA advice. Its the, and this will upset some but it gets the point over, attitude of when officialdom say 'jump' some shout "me first sir, me first sir, how high how high" when there is no legal reason to do anything until January as advised by our national body the BMFA. I have the attitude of when officialdom says 'jump' I question why, when and what purpose does my jumping serve. Then I consider whether I will or I will not jump. I've known from an early age that my personality is problematic in certain situations that require one to just 'do', like the armed forces or the police etc.

John, thanks for your concern.

20/11/2019 20:37:09

John, as always I'm not telling anyone what to think just reporting on a conversation and what I think.

20/11/2019 20:34:49

I'll convey your opinion of my friends decision and of him to him. Alan, I can't say I fully agree with your first statement especially with respect to freedom of speech and its erosion in the UK by various laws. There are other issues but not for here.

20/11/2019 20:23:02

My, the forum is populated with 'saints' who've never ever broken any laws! Who'd of thought.

I never mentioned anyone by name, but if the cap fits. I also was at pains to point out its not the money or test. We both could, if we so desired, easily pay £100/y or more if we felt it justified. So, I'll say it again, it's the principle. A concept that some seem to have difficulty grasping.

It was an unprompted disclosure from my friend that came out of the blue. As I've previously posted I am going to try CL for the first time and keep my powder dry until I see what 1st July brings.

20/11/2019 20:03:46

Many people in the past have given up much more than a hobby because laws cause a conflict of principle, imprisonment, hard labour camps and even their lives. All given up because of a conflict of principle. That's what this is, feeling that strong that the whole DRES nonsense is so wrong that you will not condone it by participating in it. If that means no more aeromodelling the so be it. The phycological distress suffered if one does not act on ones principle can be severe and is called 'cognitive dissonance', first documented in the 50's. I would respectfully suggest that their desire not to go to jail over say 'freedom of speech' or to continue to live over more serious principles far exceeded your personal desire to continue a hobby. Also, if people of principle had not been prepared to give up much more than the personal gratification of continuing with a hobby this society and your life would undoubtedly be very different.

You can take from my post what you like as to whether I was making a point or just commenting on a conversation.

If you don't like the colloquial term 'sheeple' substitute 'order followers'.

Edited By GONZO on 20/11/2019 20:06:48

20/11/2019 19:12:17

Well, I had a long chat with my friend this afternoon. Amongst many topics the nonsense that is DRES and the 'criminalisation' of flying toy planes when not compliant with the registration etc. He said it was the final straw and was giving up entirely, that's everything including mag subs etc. So that those who barrack those giving up please understand it's not the £9, it's not the stupid test, it's the principle. He's the chap who lives at the end of a single track lane up in the hills of North Wales with his own 1,000ft field at the bottom of his bungalows garden.

So, to all those 'sheeple' who are falling over themselves to join this pathetic charade, ITS THE PRINCIPLE that's the crux of the matter.

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