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Thread: Electric Motor failed ?
10/08/2020 15:49:54
Posted by alan barnstable on 10/08/2020 13:27:10:

Many thanks for the responses, I think it's very likely I've cooked the motor by over stressing it with 5s battery and big prop - it did fly very fast, but not very long !!!

I've got to decide now whether to buy a better motor, e.g. a 4258 as suggested by Bob, or I do have an Irvine 46 I could convert it to, decisions, decisions.

Thanks again.

Don't think its the "big prop", that's not large with electric setups, but a Funfly certainly doesn't need a 5S battery. My electric Funfly has more than enough power with an SK3 3548 840kv and a 4S 3000 battery. Easily get a good 10 minutes out of that on a 12x6 prop with 700+ watts. Flown more gently and you will get considerably in excess of this.

Don't forget that the heavier weight of a 5S battery will have a negative effect on the performance.


Edited By Andy48 on 10/08/2020 15:51:27

Thread: Is this Power Supply Suitable?
02/08/2020 21:35:34
Posted by John Wagg on 02/08/2020 21:32:26:

Won't a 4s LiPo need more than 12v to fully charge it.?

Nope. The charger is capable of increasing the output voltage.

Thread: Battery connectors
31/07/2020 17:30:54
Posted by leccyflyer on 31/07/2020 16:30:57:

For my own system I employ colour coded lenghts of blue Sullivan snake out to cover the positive male pin on the battery at all times, except when the connection is actually being made. These are blue for discharged (or storage voltage, or used) and replaced by green when the pack comes off the charger, thus given an instant indication of the status of the battery pack and also preventing the sort of positive pin contacting a metal box scenario described.


31/07/2020 14:11:45
Posted by perttime on 31/07/2020 06:55:23:

What about small models? Still XT?

Yes, XT30s.

Thread: taranis qx7
18/07/2020 09:35:40

Yes. Check here: Section 7 page 17


Thread: Confused about OTX version
13/07/2020 14:18:00

No. You need to update it to 2.3.9. You've updated Companion but not the transmitter.

Thread: LiPo over-voltage
09/07/2020 14:37:22
Posted by Dickw on 09/07/2020 13:12:29:
Posted by Andy48 on 09/07/2020 11:09:03:
Posted by Tim Kearsley on 09/07/2020 08:54:59:

Either way, I believe a poor connection in the balance lead could result in overcharging on a balanced charge. Far easier, and it seems, safer to normally do a standard charge, and only if the battery shows more than 0.1 or 0.2v difference between cells to finish off with a balance charge.


Edited By Andy48 on 09/07/2020 11:11:23

I must admit to being a bit surprised at your reference to 0.1 or 0.2v difference. I have just put a couple on charge and the 3s battery has a difference of 0.029v between highest and lowest cell, and for the 10s the difference is .026v. Balancing starts as soon as the charger starts and I would expect cells to be closer at the end.

If any battery shows as much as 0.1v at the start of the charge I would assume a faulty connection or a suspect batery and act accordingly.

Your system obviously works for you, but I don't believe my chargers measure cell volts while balance current is flowing, as a modern battery management IC should take care of that, so I will continue balance charging. each to his own I suppose.


Sorry, I meant 0.01v

However, this also begs a question as to how closely cells have to be balanced? I've checked many new batteries and found even the best have some variance in the IR.


Edited By Andy48 on 09/07/2020 14:44:24

09/07/2020 11:09:03
Posted by Tim Kearsley on 09/07/2020 08:54:59:

But this doesn't make logical sense. If the charger is displaying a Voltage of, say, 4.35V then it "knows" that the offending cell is over-Voltage - how else can it be displaying it? I can understand the similar scenario where some high resistance connection results in the charger "seeing" a falsely low Voltage, but then it would display that false reading wouldn't it?



Two possibilities. It could be I moved the battery thereby restoring a good connection before I looked at the charger, or it is possible that the poor connection corrected itself just before I looked at the charger.

Either way, I believe a poor connection in the balance lead could result in overcharging on a balanced charge. Far easier, and it seems, safer to normally do a standard charge, and only if the battery shows more than 0.1 or 0.2v difference between cells to finish off with a balance charge.

Pity really, because my chargers do quite a fast balanced charge.

Out of interest, my charger will not charge unless the balance lead is connected, and it always does a cell count first to check.

Edited By Andy48 on 09/07/2020 11:11:23

08/07/2020 22:16:10
Posted by Allan Bennett on 08/07/2020 20:37:39:

There's obviously many different makes/types of chargers being considered here. Mine displays individual cell voltages throughout the charge, and I've never seen any cell go above 4.20v -- if it did, the charger would have stopped and given an 'over voltage' error message. If a pack is out of balance it holds the first cell to reach 4.20v while the other cells catch up. Like Chris, I don't understand how any charger can display a cell voltage over 4.20v and not figure out that something's wrong.

Simple, because at the time it does not realise the cell voltage is over 4.2v due to a poor connection.

08/07/2020 19:47:03
Posted by Chris Bott - Moderator on 08/07/2020 18:41:15:

I don't understand Andy48. If it was reading over 4.3 on the charger screen then it knew it was going past 4.2 and shouldn't have charged it further.

If a bad connection meant that the reading in the charger was actually 4.2 when the battery was over 4.3 then you'd have seen 4.2. I'm missing something, aren't I?

It was reading under voltage when it started, however, I think the poor connection corrected itself shortly before I checked the voltages again. I'm not sure I understand either, cCould be I moved the battery, and this corrected the bad connection. I just know it happened, and I will be a lot more circumspect before using balance charge again.

08/07/2020 18:30:41

I have two good quality double chargers, and yes one of my cells did overcharge. Fortunately it has the option of displaying individual cell voltages, and when I connected it, one cell looked a little low, about 0.3v which was a little unusual. Thankfully I kept checking the charger whilst it was charging, and it was then I noticed that one cell was now reading over 4.3v. The rest (it was a 5S) we just over 4.0. A poor connection was the problem. I must have used these chargers hundreds of times now without any problem until this event. This particular battery was (and still is) in good condition, and individual cell voltages remain very close to each other during flight and at the end of a flight.

Thankfully (1) I had the charger set to show individual voltages, and (2) I was monitoring it frequently. Otherwise I would almost certainly have had a fire.

For those that think it essential to balance charge every time, I would ask why? There is certainly a danger of having the same problem I had, and the possibility of a fire due to overcharging.

Its simple really, check the cell voltages and if there is a difference of more than a couple of tenths of a volt, then do a balance charge, but check individual voltages regularly, otherwise do a normal charge..

Thread: Outdoor Workshop
06/07/2020 19:58:54

I've recently finished insulating my new garden shed. I strenghened the floor with a layer of flooring chipboard followed by a plastic click-lock laminate. I didn't bother with insulating the floor as most heat is lost through the walls and roof with only 10% lost through the floor. I reduced that further with the extra thickness of chipboard and the plastic flooring.The floor has never been cold. Walls and roof are both insulated and it has double glazed windows and door. The roof is hot roofed with a rubber roof membrane. All the joins in the wall and roof are sealed against draughts.

I just heat it with a oil filled radiator which has a built in timer. Never needed it on anything but the lowest setting, and it was quite cheap to buy.

Thread: LiPo over-voltage
06/07/2020 19:46:02

I posted about the danger of this just 2-3 weeks ago. It only happens with balance charging, due to a bad connection somewhere between the balance plug and the charger.

For this reason it seems far better to NOT balance charge unless the cells actually need it, and then do a normal charge followed by a balance charge, watching the individual cell voltage frequently.

As for your overcharged battery, as Richard says, I'd also be inclined to discharge it and then send it for recycling. Better safe than sorry, for what such a battery costs.

Thread: Self adhesive trim
03/07/2020 21:15:07
Posted by wingcoax on 03/07/2020 16:15:53:

Does anyone remember the packs of self adhesive trim sheets you could get about 20 years ago? What happened to them? They were a good way to decorate your models without a lot of masking or cutting of covering.

Water decals. You can buy water decal paper that you use in an ink jet printer - try Amazon. Then design your own decals. Once printed spray with clear acrylic lacquer and then use like any other water decal.

Thread: Onboard Voltage Sensor
03/07/2020 17:22:34




Edited By Andy48 on 03/07/2020 17:22:54

Thread: propellers
30/06/2020 18:05:04

26p a propeller is awfully cheap. I would expect to pay at least £1-2 each for them. You might find the ones you have got are very flimsy, and not very safe.

Thread: Motor Braking
28/06/2020 14:36:01

Not made any difference with mine. It will only hang down when the glider is going slow enough and folds out of the way when landing.

28/06/2020 13:35:42

Were life that simple! An electric motor will have various stopping positions depending on the number of turns. Try turning the motor, unconnected of course, by hand and you will feel them.

Thread: Unable to save settings for S8R
27/06/2020 21:15:23
Posted by Allan Bennett on 27/06/2020 20:32:20:
Posted by Andy48 on 27/06/2020 19:55:04:

Probably nobody's made too much effort over this is because there is the LUA script on the tx which does the same job, and so much easier to use, and of course the settings can easily be tweaked down at the field.

I know that all sorts of things can be tweaked on the trannie, but I don't like doing any of that at the field because (a) the screen is difficult to see in bright light and (b) the screen is difficult to see because I don't carry my reading glasses with me frown

Using LUA script to configure my S8R was a revelation, but I much prefer OTX Companion and FreeLink on my laptop in the workshop. If any tweaking is needed after a flight, I just make a mental note of it and do it later at home.

Hmmm. If you don't take reading glasses down to the field, how do you carefully check a model over before the first flight to ensure nothing has come amiss during transport?

I've never had a problem with seeing the screen even in bright light and there are some things I do need to change occasionally down at the field. I always carry a spare of glasses in my field box.

27/06/2020 19:55:04
Posted by Steve Balaam on 27/06/2020 16:40:23:

In response to Ron Gray. The original FRSKY config software has not been able to save settings back to the Rx for a couple of years, FRSKY haven't bothered to fix it. I've had to depend on Mike Blandford's program and the LUA script. I tried an early version of FreeLink that never worked. I've now managed after some effort to get the new version working with Windows 10 by configuring it to working in Windows XP compatibility mode. I had to do this both on my PC and Laptop. There are no explanatory notes telling users to do this. Users should not have to struggle to get these programs to work, the RX's are difficult enough to set up when things are working normally. In my humble opinion these programs are not yet fit for purpose and shouldn't have been released, hense my comment Ron took exception to.

Probably nobody's made too much effort over this is because there is the LUA script on the tx which does the same job, and so much easier to use, and of course the settings can easily be tweaked down at the field.

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