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Thread: Seagull Super Decathlon 120 size
04/03/2017 17:30:40
Posted by Jon Harper - Laser Engines on 04/03/2017 15:47:39:

I would dowel the holes and then put a thin ply plate on the front to help keep the drill straight when making th new holes. I really like the wings though, is it one piece of printed vinyl?

I've been offered an adjustable mount from a club mate so I'm going to give that a go tomorrow.

Yes Jon I'm lucky to have my pick from the trade , it's a fairly thin vinyl and as well as looking what I was wanting it will offer protection to the underside covering as the struts collapse down onto the wing for storage & transportation.

The chap who has the mount has just finished a plane that houses one of your twins so I'm looking foreword to seeing that too.

04/03/2017 13:24:01
Posted by Colin Carpenter on 04/03/2017 13:05:30:

Looks very nice indeed , Justin. Colin 😀

A bit different for me Colin, I've got some crew & passengers for this one too. wink

04/03/2017 13:09:55
Posted by trebor on 04/03/2017 13:04:37:

Dowel and epoxy will be stronger than the ply anyway should be ok. You could put some thin ply inside for the nutserts to go through as well.

The quicker route too Bob.

04/03/2017 13:09:01
Posted by cymaz on 04/03/2017 13:04:23:

Dowel and epoxy...if it were me. Get a decent engine mount. Any triangle stock on the inside corners?

Edited By cymaz on 04/03/2017 13:05:47

Yes its not to bad for an ARTF triangle section on all 4 sides. So you would go the new mount route ?

04/03/2017 12:53:23

 

Mount.

Hmm that's a pain, do I fill the holes with 5mm dowel and epoxy or replace the beam mounts with an adjustable one piece mount hoping for better hole positions ??

 

 

Edited By Justin K. on 04/03/2017 12:57:28

03/03/2017 18:54:49
Posted by trebor on 03/03/2017 18:49:29:

Can you get it in your car ? laugh

Yes it's a fairly short fuselage Bob , I did check first tho as I have been caught out in the past 😂

03/03/2017 18:44:16
Posted by cymaz on 03/03/2017 18:34:46:

Engine inverted...why spoil one side of that nice cowl

Yes my thoughts too , it's a pumper so I will go inverted.

Hopefully I will get some more done over the weekend, not as if flying is going to get in the way looking at the forecast.

03/03/2017 17:49:22

Tail section done , the aluminium boss mounted in the base of the horizontal stabiliser made this a simple task as everything lined up perfectly.

The manual calls for the rudder to be hinged before assembling the tail section but this is incorrect as if you did it would make the bottom rudder to airframe hinge impossible to fit. Dry fitting the parts before committing with adhesive saved the day here.

On to the engine mount next , sideways as per the book or inverted is the question ?

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26/02/2017 10:52:44
Posted by cymaz on 26/02/2017 09:11:06:

Oh nice....should definitely know which way is down

Yes let's hope , on to the tail feathers next. I did the elevator hinges yesterday, not sure if I will get a chance to do much today.

26/02/2017 09:06:32

With a wing span of 2 meters it should have a nice presence on the ground and in the air.

Unfortunately this version doesn't have flaps just some pretty chunky ailerons taking up around 40% of the wing. There are 4 threaded inserts in each wing to take some brass turnbuckles that are used to attach the wing struts, 2 in my model were very tight with what seemed like excess glue binding the thread so a little care was needed to clear these.

I was very impressed with the Hangar 9 100cc Decathlon when I saw one at an LMA show a couple of years ago , this version has a black & white striped covering on the underside of the wing so I decided to replicate that detail on mine rather than use the supplied chequered pattern supplied.

I had some vinyl printed at work and applied it wet to the covering and I'm pleased with the result.

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26/02/2017 08:34:16

First impressions when I opened the box were good. A large boxy fuselage with a removable door allowing access inside to secure the wings. I may hinge the door and add some magnets to secure it rather than the supplied thumb screws.

I've chosen to replace the supplied hard foam wheels with some nicer rubber ones and I will fit a Du Bro tank in place of the seagull one. The supplied tank looks OK but I like the Du Bro tanks and have never had one leak as yet, unlike some of the kit supplied tanks i have used.

The wheel spats are fitted and secured by clamping between the axle stub bolt and the leg so I have added some 3M double sided adhesive foam tape to hopefully prevent them turning into floats in flight.

I'm using Hitec karbonite geared digital servos in this model for the first time , they perform nicely on the servo tester but the horn screws are incredibly tight to remove from new and care is needed to prevent rounding the head.

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26/02/2017 07:44:14

Looking for some something a bit different to add to my fleet I've purchased a Seagull Decathlon 120.

My fleet consists mainly of sports aero's and warbirds and I wanted something low maintenance to house an OS 120 four stroke that's been sitting in the box for to long.

I chose the Decathlon as it's a fairly aerobatic for a high wing design , a member at the club has the 90 size and it flys well.

I will but up a few pictures of the assembly for those interested.

Edited By Justin K. on 26/02/2017 07:44:59

Thread: wish list...if only
23/02/2017 21:23:28
Posted by Donald Fry on 23/02/2017 17:59:44:

Why! A couple of quid does a small electric moter. I am a petrolhead, but how much do you want to suffer for a religion. They were childhood dreams, but when you grow up you put childhood aside.

Except flying toys.

If only I had a hand grenade to hurl at this type of individual. The type who rather than accept the dreams & wishes of one would rather taint their judgment with their own clouded views ?

Peter , Fred , Adulf & Jimmy have all been proven wrong with this attitude over the last few years. 😉

Thread: Bmfa adds
18/02/2017 13:20:21

The BMFA adds certainly aren't a wast of time , I've bought and sold plenty on there without any problems whatsoever.

Firstly don't put your phone number or email address onto the add. This will reduce the chances of a scammer contacting you greatly as only bonafide BMFA members will be able to contact you.

I've read comments from some that they don't receive an email from the site when a personnel message is received? If so check your spam & junk folder as they may be going in there. Failing that just have a look every day or so it's no great task?

If your buying and suspicious about the validity of the item request a photo from a specific angle or part view , most genuine sellers won't mind doing this.

PayPal is a safety net (but certainly not totally infallible) and is very easy to use , exchanging bank details is dangerous and totally unnecessary in this day and age.

Lastly, once contact has been made via the message service why not phone and chat to the buyer / seller? We're all in the same game and it's fairly easy to recognise if someone genuinely knows what he's talking about.

Personally I feel the BMFA would be better off removing the phone number / email section from the adds as it's obvious more than a few undesirables are aware of the site and are looking to take advantage of some who aren't as online savvy as some.

Thread: Banggood
08/02/2017 17:40:21

Good luck with any issues you face with an order from Bangood. They are less than helpful in resolving quality problems.

Hobbyking are painful at times but will refund / replace if you go via the correct channels , Bangood are woefully lacking.

Thread: Odd throttle problem
06/02/2017 16:35:39

Ok , I use a 14 SG and it seems similar programming. Are the recievers on the other planes the same ? It sounds odd , almost like the movement of the other sticks is somehow putting the throttle into "INH inhibited mode"?

Personally with it being a fairly simple model radio control wise I think I would make a note of any trim positions & erase the program then open a new one.

06/02/2017 16:20:54

What model transmitter is it Cliff?

Thread: Seagull P-47
06/02/2017 16:17:26

I was talking to my flying buddy at the patch on Saturday who has the Hangar 9 version. He's had it a good while and has only just got around to assembling it.

He too has come up with a couple of bad issues including the wings not fitting into the plug sockets and a big gap around the horizontal stabiliser.

To late for him to return it unfortunately so he's having to make modifications, hopefully the Seagull airframe will be better.

03/02/2017 16:04:56

Hi Tim , yes there were seemingly a couple of issues with the Hangar 9 version. Frustrating indeed!

The Seagull P47 does look nice & we have a couple in local clubs.

The newer versions of the Hangar 9 60 size warbirds all seem to have suffered from some build quality issues and don't seem to be as good flying wise as the older range such as the Corsair , Hellcat and the silver P47.

I have the 60 size Corsair new in the box waiting to be assembled.

Thread: Newbie to IC - running in different four-strokes?
28/01/2017 23:06:07

No Jonathan nothing is amiss, reading back over the thread you seem to be looking far to deeply into what is essentially a very simple internal combustion engine.

Also just a side note , four stroke engines have a soft aluminium plug thread as opposed to some two stroke units that have a harder steel bushed thread. Be careful & try to not repeatedly remove & refit the plug as wear & damage may occur.

If it's running ok then fly it & through use it will get better.

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