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Spice Cat21/11/2014 11:40:57
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Good morning all,

As the festive period is approaching, I have been pestered for ideas and was hit by a thunderbolt, not literally, when I saw a brief you tube clip on FPV.

I liked what I saw and have found this kit available on ebay from Storm Trade RC and good old Bruce from RC Model Reviews recommended these to beef up reception. They are available from Hobbyking but from HK and having been stung by import and the risk of problems and having returns, Storm RC claim to be in the UK and are a top rated seller with only .1% negative feedback. Unless you know better!!

I have yet to fully read up on the subject with regards to rules but has anyone got these or indeed make a recommendation of a brand of kit??
Regards.

Andy Meade21/11/2014 11:59:37
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Hi SC,

I've not used them, but the Teleporters are quite a low resolution, and may be too low for you to pick out important detail when wearing them. If you're just dipping your toe into FPV and not certain if you'll stay doing it, these may be fine. Otherwise, look at something with a higher resolution - perhaps the FatShark Predator or Dominators.

Also, there is no mention on the power of the video TX - legally (if I remember correctly) should be about the 25mW range on 5.8GHz. Also, I'd swap those rubber ducky antennae for some circularly polarized versions, akin to these **LINK**

This will give you better interference rejection and higher gain than the dipoles, resulting in better range when flying.

 

I'm a numpty and didn't follow your second link, sorry.  Yes use skew-planars and pinwheels for sure, but the goggles...maybe stretch a little more to get a better image.

I hope this helps!

Edited By Andy Meade on 21/11/2014 12:04:35

Spice Cat21/11/2014 18:03:35
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Many thanks. I may just splash out and get the goggles for now as summer time is a long way off.

Regards

John F22/11/2014 08:12:48
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With regards to the rules the lowdown is here on the BMFA qwebsite. Note that it does say the aircraft must remain within unaided line of sight.

Spice Cat22/11/2014 09:48:14
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Thanks John, the intention is to mount the camera on my BFG 2600 glider to provide a stable platform. The model will always be in line of sight.

Having just re-read the blurb on my Mobious camera, it's up to the job of FPV so I may just plough mu cash at this point into the best goggles I can afford.

I am presently looking at the Fat Shark Dominator.

 

Edited By Spice Cat on 22/11/2014 09:48:41

Andy Meade24/11/2014 13:21:24
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Good stuff SC My best FPV moments have always been on large gliders. Quads etc are fun, but the relaxing soaring amongst the buzzards is where the best flying is, imho.

Keep us all updated as you progress please!

Allan Bowker26/11/2014 14:22:37
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I've taken the plunge too, just ordered these from HobbyKing:

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This comparison chart by FatShark is useful and reveals the latest FPV offering from Horizon Hobby is the base model.

I went with the Attitude V2 as I've read, via a few sources, the top model DominatorHD have some early design issues that are still being tweaked and transmitting in HD quality is currently more costly and a tad more difficult to achieve reliably. Another factor is the extra cost of the Dominator HD for resolution that I probably won't achieve yet. Interesting that FatShark's definintion of HD is 800x600 and not 1280x720

The final seal on the deal was an email from David Windestål saying that the Attitude V2 are his current favourite and personal weapon of choice.

Hopefully with a consumer Oculus Rift not far away (a year or so), we will be using those next (as some already are!)

 

Edited By Allan Bowker on 26/11/2014 14:24:19

Andy Meade26/11/2014 14:36:07
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Not sure on the Oculus - looks a bit bulky for in the field use. I guess they do 3D? I've had the good fortune to try out some Cinemizers with a 3D camera on a quad - quite an eye opener, if you'll excuse the pun. Very impressed, and definitely my next goggles will be 3D capable.

Spice Cat26/11/2014 14:59:37
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 Found this on You Tube. Awesome stuff.

 

Edited By Spice Cat on 26/11/2014 15:00:18

Andy Meade26/11/2014 15:29:42
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Very nice, thanks for the video

Spice Cat29/11/2014 15:31:18
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My good lady wife has apparently been saving for Christmas God bless her. So I can now splash out a bit. I am after a set of Fatshark dominator V2 goggles from the FPV website.

In the meantime sorry to keep posting like this, but I found this video on YouTube. If you ignore the somewhat dodgy moments, it's incredible stuff.

Allan Bowker01/12/2014 13:44:02
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A nice box has just landed on my desk from HobbyKing, Hong Kong, in less than 5 calendar days.

Verrry happy smile d with my new FatShark Attitude v2, can't wait to test them out.

Frank Skilbeck01/12/2014 13:58:31
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Posted by Allan Bowker on 26/11/2014 14:22:37:

I've taken the plunge too, just ordered these from HobbyKing:

fpv.jpg

This comparison chart by FatShark is useful and reveals the latest FPV offering from Horizon Hobby is the base model.

I went with the Attitude V2 as I've read, via a few sources, the top model DominatorHD have some early design issues that are still being tweaked and transmitting in HD quality is currently more costly and a tad more difficult to achieve reliably. Another factor is the extra cost of the Dominator HD for resolution that I probably won't achieve yet. Interesting that FatShark's definintion of HD is 800x600 and not 1280x720

The final seal on the deal was an email from David Windestål saying that the Attitude V2 are his current favourite and personal weapon of choice.

Hopefully with a consumer Oculus Rift not far away (a year or so), we will be using those next (as some already are!)

Edited By Allan Bowker on 26/11/2014 14:24:19

Allan I looked at that set by the video Tx is 250mW, I thought that 25mW was the limit in UK/EU, but i must admit I am somewhat confused about this as several UK sites sell 25 mW (EU approved sets) and 200+mW sets, but it's not clear when you have to use the lower powered Tx or if it's OK to use the higher powered video Tx's for FPV.

Allan Bowker01/12/2014 15:24:02
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Yes Frank, 25mW wasn't an option for me as the system is bundled with a 250mW transmitter.
The additional cost of a 25mW transmitter is relatively low compared to what I've saved in buying from Hong Kong.

If I haven't of saved over £100 I would have gladly purchased in the UK, it's too big a saving for me to ignore.

Andy Meade01/12/2014 15:48:50
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Legal video TX power is 25mW max...

Frank Skilbeck01/12/2014 21:49:40
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OK, I assume all the higher power systems for sale from UK vendors are for "export" only.

Allan Bowker01/12/2014 22:27:38
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Maybe Frank, it is not illegal to sell them in the UK, only their use.

Josip Vrandecic -Mes02/12/2014 09:52:35
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Hello Allan , Please tell me why only minus lens(myopia) in the box. I use for reading +2 lens(farsighted), so I wonder if can I put a plus lens on the Fatshark?

Thanks in advance

Jo

Allan Bowker02/12/2014 10:25:13
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Hello Jo

It is something I wondered too, I do not know why only minus lenses are available, however suits me as I am short (near) sighted.

Perhaps an email to FatShark would answer that one?

Josip Vrandecic -Mes02/12/2014 11:31:45
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Dear Allan ,thanks alot, you are very kind.....

All the best

Jo

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