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Pete B - Moderator31/01/2015 18:55:19
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A bit of right boot to point it the right

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator31/01/2015 20:10:34
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Nice bit of footwork that. You often see pilots applying rudder on landing in a crosswind of course, but there they are kind of "expecting it" - they know they need to "straighten up" to the runway. But this guy was caught on the hop - fast reactions!


Josip Vrandecic -Mes31/01/2015 20:58:04
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Thanks Pete , right move, of thoroughbred flayer, during the crosswind take off......thumbs up


cymaz31/01/2015 21:08:53
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Great demonstration of rudder. It's a shame some rc pilots can't use rudder, I watch the rc crash vids on YouTube mostly on landings. If you notice some pilots use aileron on a cross landing rather than rudder. Then they hit the pit fencing !

avtur01/02/2015 00:46:15
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Just a bit of a question ... I've watched the clip many times, the camera angle isn't great for viewing the the tail and rudder.

There is a massive yaw the instant the wheels lift from the runway but its difficult to see a huge rudder input and I'm not sure why such an input would be required.

Once the aircraft is airborne what matters is its orientation with regard to the air it is flying in; if it 'weather-cocks' into wind once the wheels are off the ground there is no immediate need to correct as this only relates to track over the ground.

Coming into to land in a crosswind there can be a need for a boot-full of rudder at the point of touch down when transitioning from flight in a block of air to movement on the ground. But on take-off the need to correct yaw is not there.

I'm not for one minute doubting the skill of the pilot since controlling the roll effect of the crosswind no doubt required immense skill.

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John F01/02/2015 08:03:26
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If you look at the vid the pilot clearly applies some rudder input which you can see at 40 seconds then again magnified at 1 minute.

Whilst it is true that the aircraft would weathercock the take off speed is not enough to do that so inputs are required.

We used to sit on the airfield at Wyton on standby in the Ambulance for the rookie students' first solo flights in Grob tutors and then many take offs for Air Days and practice displays for Tornados and Hawks. I even got to see the take off and mini impromptu display from a SU-27 as it left to go home after the air day which was fantastic.

Some days most flights, on windy days, were quite skewed take offs and landings and needed rudder which could be clearly seen on some aircraft.

Edited By John F on 01/02/2015 08:04:01

bouncebounce crunch01/02/2015 09:16:32
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Everyone flying uses rudder, watch as the models taxi about your stripcrook

Former Member01/02/2015 09:59:50

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Steve Hargreaves - Moderator01/02/2015 16:40:52
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Struggling to see the problem here......most of my take offs look like this one.....teeth 2

Stevo01/02/2015 16:57:21
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Reverse the film... It now looks like my landings blush

Phil Claridge03/02/2015 12:11:57
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how do get reverse gear stevo?wink

Steve T03/02/2015 12:26:14
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Still a serious brown trouser job for the pilot I imagine !

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