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Shaun Clarke02/10/2007 16:22:00
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Call Mr Cheapskate...but has anybody heard of or know of an attachment to put on a cordless drill for starting up engines??? If not..why? I think its a good idea.

Tim Mackey02/10/2007 19:37:00
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I did it once, used a replacement rubber cone from a trad starter, fitted in a home made aluminium "socket" with a threaded rod attached as a shaft to fit in the chuck. Worked OK, but did not have the torque for anything of a decent size.....one can pick up starters pretty cheap these days.
Shaun Clarke02/10/2007 20:56:00
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It was just an idea. Should turn over my 40 ok.
Tim Mackey02/10/2007 21:05:00
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yep
christopher small03/10/2007 21:38:00
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I used to use an old windscreen wiper motor with a rubber cone fitted on with a jubillee clip.used it for about 5 years,plenty of torque but no on off switch.I just pulled the plug out.BUT you had to be carefull.
Mouldy10/10/2007 11:40:00
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Starters are the worst invention ever!!!You cant 'feel' the engine.

MK1 finger, source to ignite the glow, fuel. Its all you should ever need if the engine is set up right! 

winchweight10/10/2007 12:41:00
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Or mk 2 finger if mk1 flew off across the airfield last time!
Mouldy10/10/2007 13:35:00
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like I said bud, set the engine up proper like and you wont loose any fingers!

Never used a starter in my life, even when under pressure at the Nationals. They only gave you 90secs, (from memory), to start the engine and get to the flight position once you were called to fly!

Shaun Clarke10/10/2007 13:53:00
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I read that a starter can flood the engine fairly easily and casue broken conrods etc...starting by hand seems more proper some how...but, yes, watch those fingers.
Mouldy10/10/2007 13:59:00
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Flooding is easy regardless of if a starter is used or not. However if the engine is flooded then banging a starter on the poor little blighter can cause a hydraulic lock. This in turn can bend conrods at worse, bugger the plug at best.

After priming an engine, light the glow and then turn the prop over by holding it  in your fist. If you feel a slight kick then engine is ready to rock. Big kick then probably too much fuel and likely to bite! 

Shaun Clarke10/10/2007 14:02:00
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Are there different size glow starters?  Reason I ask is I brought one last weekend and it does not clip on. You have to hold it on top of the glow plug.

Mouldy10/10/2007 14:04:00
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not different sizes, but different makes. Some are better then others and IMO you need one that locks on.
Shaun Clarke10/10/2007 14:08:00
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So the one I got is no good? Does it need to lock on just for safety reasons?
Mouldy10/10/2007 14:15:00
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Well have you dont want to be reaching across the prop holding on to a glow clip while starting the engine for a number of reason. Not least because you havent got hold of the model!

Clip on, start engine, retreat behind the model to remove said clip.

Get one that locks on. They dont cost the earth, but they might save you looking like youve just met the the guy from the Texas Chainsaw Masacre!

Peter Miller11/10/2007 08:41:00
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I used to use a finger for about 45 years, then I inherited a starter. For safety my starter is fitted into my flight box. I hold the model from behind and use a foot switch. The Glow starter is separate and is behind the model. NOTHING passes from the front of the model to the rear except the foot switch lead on the ground.

The starter is in the end of the box and the box doesn't move but if it did one can put a couple of pegs in the ground. Even a tuft of grass on concrete holds it.

For a glow starter I use a Schumacher Glowstick. This is a little black box that is taped to a 6 cell nicad. I have to charge it up about twice a year. You might have to charge it a bit more often if you fly a lot.

The Glow clip that I use is made (or at least sold) by J Perkins. They do wear out after a few years but are cheap to replace.

Peter Miller11/10/2007 08:42:00
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By the way, cordless drills don't turn fast enough to start many model engines.

Bill Courtney11/10/2007 12:21:00
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Most of my engines start with a quick backward turn of the spinner. not only does this save your fingers, but it also looks quite impressive.

David Begg11/01/2008 08:00:00
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I have just come home from the Accident and Emergency department with 15 stitches in one finger plus a minor broken bone and 2 sutures in another finger. The pain killer is beginning to wear off!!!
What was I doing? Having a great fly with my trainer on a warm still summer afternoon(Southern Hemisphere) The plane landed and was refueled. I restarted the motor, the plane was securely held by its metal restraining clamp. I was doing all the right stuff. The motor was just a little off song, have to adjust the needle valve slightly, finger in to the invisible prop whizzing at around at about 12000 rpm. Bang the motor stops, blood is flying in all directions, all over the plane and me, that was the end of the flying for a while.

I was excited at getting the plane into the air again, probably a bit tired, it was lunch time, I FORGOT TO THINK AND WATCH WHAT I WAS DOING AND TAKE ENOUGH CARE!!

Remember propellers are very dangerous, modern props are very hard and sharp, even with the sharp edges sanded off slightly. YOU DO NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE!!!. Bang it is all over. Accidents are a combination of errors, I was thinking on the way out to the flying field that I should paint the tips of the prop a bright colour to make them stand out, but I didn't do it. I know the prop is spinning close to fingers, stay behind it, be careful, did'nt remember to do this or think it was necessary to do this for a minor simple adjustment..........

I didn't chop the end off my finger, the Doctor did some good sewing and my finger should heal up fine with no lasting damage, it could have be a lot worse, but also I could not have done it in the first place!

Is glow fuel a good antiseptic?
Peter Miller11/01/2008 08:22:00
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As I said before, I have the starter mounted in the box and stand behind my model at all times. Much, much safer. NOTHING  passes through the prop arc.
Tim Mackey11/01/2008 09:35:00
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Sorry to hear of your incident David, and hope it all heals up fine. A very familiar tale I may add, and a stark reminder to all to stay BEHIND the model as soon as it has started.

PS. Why is your post full of links to irrelevant website pages ? 

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