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Bernard Chiswell10/11/2007 00:10:00
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I'm surprised that there was not a scale model of a Gloster Gladiator, either Faith, Hope or even Charity. The three that went up against the Italians in 39/45 war.
Bob Cotsford10/11/2007 22:53:00
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there are two that I know of, both around 56" for 60-90 2st.  One is Brian Taylor's plan, the other is the CAP kit.  The CAP is bit more stand off scale, I'm currently finishing one off.  The CAP one is also available as a Traplet plan.
jimbo17/12/2007 19:43:00
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Hi bernard,

There are two options I am looking at myself, one is from the anglia model centre at56 span for60-90. The other I have managed to track down is from a chap named Phill Ramsey that produced a fibre glassed bodied 65 span for 90 2s or 120 4s,I know someone who owned one in the u.k and it flew and looked great,he does not do full production now,but will supply the one off if you are prepaired to wait a while,he can be contacted at 01323 811414 

Bernard Chiswell18/12/2007 11:17:00
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Thanks jimbo, right now I'm building a Hurricane, but the info you supplied will be very useful...thanks again Bernie
Brian Lambert06/01/2008 15:59:00
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Bob I wonder if you can help? A member of my club is building a CAP Gladiator and is trying to decide what power (Fuel) to use, would a Saito 62 be enough? Do you have a refference to the Traplet plan? it may give some clue.

TIA Brian 

Bob Cotsford07/01/2008 13:49:00
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The plan shows a Merco 60, but a couple of people on the rcmf website suggested it might be marginal with an older 60 2st.  I still haven't flown mine yet, but I've stuck an Enya 60 mk111 in it.  It's quite a bulky fuselage and cowl, so I shyed away from using my 65 4 st,  leaving the choice of the Enya 60 or an SC108 2st.  Traplet suggest 60-90 2st, so the 108 might end up powering it.

I would guess that a 75 4st would be a minimum for general flying, depending how light you can build it.  Even better would be a 90 4st - weight and bulk would not be an issue. 

Edited By David Ashby - RCME Administrator on 19/09/2010 19:16:35

Brian Lambert08/01/2008 15:08:00
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Bob

Thanks very much  for the reply, have passed the information on. We will have to wait and see how it turns out, I hope your one flys well, keep us informed please.

Brian 

Pete Lowe11/04/2008 17:06:00
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www.belairkits.com produce the cnc pack for a quarter scale gladiator
Stephen Grigg19/09/2010 10:14:12
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Ive a sad tail to tell about a Brian Taylor Gladiator  One arrived at the field yesterday.It was beautifully built to scale,doen to the rivets.It was fitted with an SC 61 2 stroke.The story behind it was the guy who built it couldnt bring himself to  fly it,He son also declined,.The new owner Simon wasnt prepared to fly it for the builder either.He received a phone call and purchased the model.It was its maiden yesterday.1st attempted take off failed and it flipped over,only breaking the prop.2nd attempt failed,it needed more throttle and again flipped over.3rd attempt was successfullBut it was unbelievably underpowered..after a couple of struggling circuits,Simon turned to land a little to sharply without enough power and it tip stalled straight down.Although Simon considered it a write off I would have attemted to repair it. 
Kelly19/09/2010 17:13:18
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Tim Mackey19/09/2010 17:33:18
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Not for me Kelvin
Kelly19/09/2010 18:55:31
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It's only on this thread Tim
Not important, just thought some others may have the same problem  .
 
David Ashby - Moderator19/09/2010 19:17:06
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That's fixed it
Kelly19/09/2010 20:42:21
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Cheers David.
 
 
shaun purdy04/11/2010 13:54:43
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Can anyone confirm the correct horizontal thrust line on Brian Taylor Gladiator  as I have no plan but plane, are any washers needed
 
Shaun
ken anderson.04/11/2010 14:05:41
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i was in the war museum in valletta 2 week's ago.....and came across the restore fuz of
one of the gladiator's(faith,hope and glory)...that defended malta...and here are some photo's of the very one(faith)...
 
  




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Mike L13/11/2010 15:33:57
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Shaun
 
Brian Taylor plan has zero  thrust either vertical or horizontal. This is a great flier, built one years ago. enjoy
shaun purdy13/11/2010 15:58:10
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MIke,
 
Many thanks for you response, I have already presumed zero thrust and taken off down thrust washer. Will know tomorrow how great they fly
 
Shaun
Martyn Garrett07/12/2010 22:13:04
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I'm currently flying a Glad built from the old CAP kit.

Engine fitted is a J'En 90 2stroke (GREAT engine, fantastic power in a small package, but probably far too much for this air frame, still isn't that what the throtle is for?!).  Initial running was OK with everything set up as per plan except that on first flight had to use all down trim available on elevator to get it "straight and level"  After a fair bit of tinkering I took about 1.5 degrees of incidence off the top wing which seemed to relieve the situation somewhat.
 
After about twenty or so flights the wing spars gave way on 3 of the four wings!.  I suspect the much higher than recommended engine power meant the balsa spars simply weren't up to the job.  Fuselage as undamaged and after stripping the covering off the wings they were also salvaged apart from the bottm centre section which I replaced.  I cut out the balsa spars and replaced them with 3/16 square spruce and have been happily flying the model ever since (about two years now)
 
I'd recommend this model to anyone looking for a standoff scale Glad.  It looks great in the air, goes where you put it, and is really nimble (hands off inverted no problem!)
Mike L08/12/2010 14:18:45
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Martyn, its funny you should mention the wing collapse, and here I must make a confession, my Gladiator started life from the CAP plan, but after 4/5 flights the wings folded up. Not best pleased I ordered the BT plan from which I  made new wings. I married up to the CAP fuselage but using BT wing indices and mounting method. With a Saito 91fs the Gladiator flew (still flies) like a trainer.
 
Glad to know after all these years the wing folding may not be down to my building! I was tempted to build a 72" version but settled on the 72" Fairey Swordfish from the traplet plan for my 2011 project.

 
 
 

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