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Percy Verance01/08/2015 18:43:23
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Hi Chaps

I began searching the Lytham St Annes Express website tonight for an item entirely unrelated to our hobby, and noticed a report regarding a drone being flown over the BAE Systems site at Warton, which is a secure area. I didn't read the report in depth, but it seems the police were in the process of speaking to a 56 year old male in connection with the incident. I also noticed it was specifically mentioned that action was to be taken against the said gentleman in the form of "restorative justice".

More trouble at 'mill it seems...............

Bill_B01/08/2015 18:54:31
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I bet he's a middle lane hogger too that doesn't indicate when turning across a junction and uses his fog lights inappropriately.

I say flog him! devil

Phil 901/08/2015 18:57:35
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I think some people do fly these devices in ignorance of the law. Stories like this will hopefully serve to educate owners it is not a free for all

As for those who are aware of the law and flaunt it anyway then they deserve prosecution

Edited By Phil 9 on 01/08/2015 19:11:01

ken anderson.01/08/2015 19:03:40
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not again...yawn...do we need another drone negative thread?

ken anderson...ne....1...... another drone report

Bill_B01/08/2015 19:19:00
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Whilst 'drones' keep appearing in a negative light through the media I suppose bona fide modellers will take exception to them, and quite rightly too. If the bad press carries on much longer I believe it will have an impact on fixed wing flyers with the inevitable introduction of stricter rules.

Watch this space as they say. dont know

David P Williams01/08/2015 19:23:00
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Yep - letter to the Editor in this morning's Times calling for the government to introduce licencing for all drone flying.

Percy Verance01/08/2015 20:20:10
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Ignorance is probably the key word here Phil. A fair percentage of these craft will be purchased by those whom probably have no knowledge whatsoever of the CAA, the BMFA, or any sort of regulatory body. They'll happily buy and fly, thinking they can fly anywhere they choose, with the sky being the limit. And they do until things sometimes go a bit pear-shaped.

It's the damage/fall-out we need to worry about as law abiding model flyers. It's a difficult one this, and I'm not sure where we go from here.........

Percy Verance01/08/2015 20:20:27
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Ignorance is probably the key word here Phil. A fair percentage of these craft will be purchased by those whom probably have no knowledge whatsoever of the CAA, the BMFA, or any sort of regulatory body. They'll happily buy and fly, thinking they can fly anywhere they choose, with the sky being the limit. And they do until things sometimes go a bit pear-shaped.

It's the damage/fall-out we need to worry about as law abiding model flyers. It's a difficult one this, and I'm not sure where we go from here.........

Percy Verance01/08/2015 20:26:41
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Ken

Negative or not, it's happening whether we like it or not Ken. And holding our hands up and proudly proclaiming "it aint us, guv" won't make the slightest difference one way or the other I fancy. As I said, I personally don't know what the answer might be here.

Someone surely has to take some responsibility here. I hate to say it, but some of these things are obviously being sold to the wrong folk.........

Edited By Percy Verance on 01/08/2015 20:27:23

Bob Cotsford01/08/2015 21:24:41
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I'm very sure it is really easy to mistake a fenced off secure area as only being restricted for people on the ground.

"I bet he's a middle lane hogger too that doesn't indicate when turning across a junction and uses his fog lights inappropriately.

I say flog him! devil"

Bill, it's this sort of easy-going liberal attitude that just encourages law breakers.

Percy Verance01/08/2015 22:01:39
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Well Bob, he may have mistaken a secure fenced off area as only being restricted to those on the ground, but I'm sure the relevant authorities will have a quiet word in his ear and point out the error of his ways.........

Edited By Percy Verance on 01/08/2015 22:02:58

Bob Cotsford01/08/2015 22:08:51
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Brian, I suspect it may be a quiet word only in the sense that it's quiet compared to Mount St Helens

Percy Verance01/08/2015 22:21:33
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The worrying thing is Bob there will be others.............

Not too long ago my partner and I were sitting in our garden when she spotted a drone hovering directly over us. I'd estimate it was at around 150ft, and was perfectly stationary. I assumed it was being piloted from our local village school field which is about 100 metres away as the crow (drone?) flies. I decided to investigate, and walked swiftly over to the said fleld. Sure enough there was the drone and it's pilot, an adult, along with two children. When they observed me watching I asked if they had any insurance cover as they'd just flown directly over occupied properties. They quickly packed everything into their 4wd pick-up and left without uttering a word.........

Another accident waiting to happen?

Edited By Percy Verance on 01/08/2015 22:23:41

ken anderson.02/08/2015 08:15:10
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not wanting to offend anyone-its up to them what/how they post----i thought maybe the link could have been posted here....rather than another thread that will come down to the yes/no for drone's...... the mention's of silly/ignorant people flying wherever they want.....Will bring in some form of rules for the things .....will it have a knock on effect-who know's..

ken anderson...ne.....1......knock on effect dept.

Phil 902/08/2015 08:51:22
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I am hoping it will eventually self regulate on the most part. I lot will try drones (for want of a better word) and then once the novelty is worn off that will be that. others will get into the hobby more seriously investing time and money. A club will not be their community or point of reference but this will come in the form of internet forums and specialists magazines. Prosecutions of those who break the law might serve as a warning to others. Maybe give police power to confiscate equipment used in an illegal manor

Percy Verance02/08/2015 08:53:40
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That's just it Ken, we don't know. As I mentioned earlier, it's happening whether we like it or not. Ignoring it changes nothing. The most frustrating thing though, is that we seemingly can't do much about it either.........

I wasn't aware of any other threads/posts Ken, otherwise I'd have more than likely posted it there. Drones are of zero interest to me personally. And there are already rules/laws Ken. But the problem here is that some - and I stress some -  of the folk whom buy and fly these things are totally oblivious to the fact that there are laws regarding where and how they can be flown, they know nothing of the CAA, the ANO, the BMFA or that there are hundreds of club structures throughout the UK. 

Mods, feel free to move this thread elsewhere if felt necessary...........

 

 

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 02/08/2015 09:17:23

Cuban802/08/2015 09:27:42
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Plenty of coverage on TV and in the newspapers about 'drone' activities and more and more in the model mags, also across social media so there's no excuse at all now for anyone to claim ignorance of the regulations.

Percy Verance02/08/2015 10:18:08
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Don't you believe it C8.

You'd be surprised what some folk ought to know but don't. I was a member of a club until just a few years back, which had a Chairman who hadn't a clue who Manny Williamson was......

Obviously he never bothered reading his copy of the BMFA News.......... or at least not as far as page three.

Edited By Percy Verance on 02/08/2015 10:18:45

Mowerman02/08/2015 10:32:08
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BMFA News Page 3 - Where has the girlie gone? obviously not worth reading !


John Privett02/08/2015 10:54:23
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Posted by Phil 9 on 02/08/2015 08:51:22:

Prosecutions of those who break the law might serve as a warning to others.

You would hope so!

But wasn't there a very high profile incident not so long ago that occurred only about 20 or 30 miles away from where this one happened? The one where somebody flew his camera-equipped model into the controlled airspace at a nuclear submarine base (near Barrow-in-Furness) and skimmed a road bridge narrowly missing pedestrians and vehicles. The CAA went to have "a quiet word" with him, he told them to "go away" (or something similar...) so they prosecuted him, he was fined and had costs awarded against him that ran into several thousands of pounds. That made the national news, and must have been widely-reported locally.

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