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cymaz14/11/2015 07:00:13
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My Thoughts and prayers to all of France and Parisians at this difficult time

mightypeesh14/11/2015 08:00:33
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Just switched on..... Leaves me cold to the pit of my stomach. How can you defend against indiscriminate attacks on men women and children just enjoying a night out by people who are happy to die doing it. Bad times ahead I feel. Awful. My heart goes out.

Phil May14/11/2015 08:16:49
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So sad....What the hell is wrong with this world????

Percy Verance14/11/2015 08:41:29
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Perhaps not so much wrong with this world Phil, more like some of the deluded/dangerous people in it...............

I absolutely shudder to think what their idea of a perfect world is. 

However, our thoughts must surely be with all those affected by this awful incident.

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 14/11/2015 08:44:50

Tim Hooper14/11/2015 10:14:08
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...and all in the name of God.

tim

Dai Fledermaus14/11/2015 10:49:43
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Today is yet another day when I am reminded how devisive, dangerous and destuctive Religion has been and will continue to be. I'm glad I have no part in it.

John Privett14/11/2015 10:56:44
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I agree DF. I am not a religious person, and events like this make me even less likely ever to be one.

I do appreciate that the "persons" (can't use the word here that I'd prefer) behind this are not representative of whatever religion they claim to represent. But the concept of living your life with the attitude that "my god is better than your god, so I'm going to kill you" is just beyond my comprehension.

My thoughts too (but not prayers) are with the people of Paris who were affected by this appalling series of events.

Tomtom3914/11/2015 11:11:17
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I was there earlier in the week and have so very many friends in Paris. Truly shocking and horrific.

john stones 114/11/2015 11:27:03
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Yes terrible events, we don't rely on religion alone to do this sort of thing to each other though.

John

Stuart Z14/11/2015 11:42:29
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Absolutely appalling!

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator14/11/2015 13:15:03
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Let's remember please that while we are all shocked at what happened and feel deeply sorrowful for those effected, this forum is not, and will not be, a platform for racialist generalisations or xenophobic rants that catagorise whole sections of the humanity into one mould. One post removed already any repetitions will be removed and posters may be sanctioned. Such expressions do not help and are not appropriate here.

BEB

Edited By Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 14/11/2015 15:41:59

Mark Kettle 114/11/2015 13:49:06
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My friend works at the British Embassy in Paris and lowered the flag this morning - in his words from facebook -

Lowering the flag at the embassy this morning is something I will never forget. Paris has become my home and I hate to see it like this. Utter horror at how some people can view this world ‪#‎prayforparis‬

Dave Hopkin14/11/2015 15:12:44
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My thoughts are with the victims and their families of this disgusting attack

Vive la France

cymaz14/11/2015 15:28:34
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Je suis  Parisien

Edited By cymaz on 14/11/2015 15:31:59

Tom Sharp 214/11/2015 18:11:43
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I wonder if they deliberately chose Friday the 13th

Paul C.14/11/2015 21:30:41
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'THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS ETERNAL VIGILENCE' some things we are going to have to fight to keep. It's a heavy price to to pay but something that must be done, it appears to be our turn on step up to fight for our freedom.

Dave Hopkin14/11/2015 22:04:09
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Posted by Paul Cooper _ on 14/11/2015 21:30:41:

'THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS ETERNAL VIGILENCE' some things we are going to have to fight to keep. It's a heavy price to to pay but something that must be done, it appears to be our turn on step up to fight for our freedom.

"Eternal Vigilance" is a myth, it cant be achieved without a total lock down of society, in which case the Terrorist have achieved part of their aims, Terrorist who want to escape and survive can be effectively deterred by security screens, but its not effective against those willing to sacrifice their own lives - I am afraid its more of the same, "we have to be lucky all the time, they only have to be lucky once"

Stepping up the fight against them by the western nations would I am afraid have the real potential to make the situation worse - in a diplomatic sense the west has put itself in a very difficult position, it wants Assad removed, but the only force with any prospect of doing that is ISIS and that would be a worse outcome....

bouncebounce crunch15/11/2015 07:18:55
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Posted by Tom Sharp 2 on 14/11/2015 18:11:43:

I wonder if they deliberately chose Friday the 13th

I think a pattern is emerging Tom

August 10 Angolan train explosions

September 11 New York

October 12 Bali

November 13 Paris

Piers Bowlan15/11/2015 08:18:33
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The Eternal vigilance of GCHQ has saved this country the pain of numerous attacks, we will never know the full story. Vigilance by the general public is essential particularly within communities where radicalisation may fester. It is sadly true that there is not any total defence against this kind of attack, particularly by Jihadi lone wolfs if not by organised gangs.

So Dave, what is the alternative to not stepping up the fight even if that does initially make the situation worse? Stop the bombing, pull out the special forces, stop surveillance and drone flights? In short, turn the other cheek and pretend it it is not happening; it is not our civil war? Soon, a million displaced Syrians will have entered Europe seeking a new life, free of persecution and the fighting. IS have expanded their war into Turkey so is it likely to stop there? History has shown that fanatical tyrants and bullies with expansionist ambitions need to be stood up to and taken to account. Whether walking away and doing nothing or getting further embroiled in this conflict, sadly, I feel the situation will get worse before it gets better.

Percy Verance15/11/2015 08:59:14
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Id completely agree Piers, to do nothing hardly seems like an option. We simply have to rely on our elected representatives to act in our/the country's best interests. And I'm afraid I haven't the slightest idea where that might lead us..........

And yes Piers, I also (sadly) agree with the last line of your post........

 

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 15/11/2015 09:04:03

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