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Cuban811/01/2016 09:30:58
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Just seen in another place that this year's August Nats at Barkston has been scrubbed because of building work taking place. Not a lot of good news at the moment.

Area 5111/01/2016 12:20:53
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Hey C8 you have got to laugh... right?

Seemingly this was news given last week to the "freeflight and CL" boys at a meeting with the head of the BMFA in attendance..

Nothing on the BMFA website though as of 5mins ago!

Probably explains why there is so much coverage of freeflight in the BMFA news..

No need for us to worry about drones ruining the hobby is there.

Andy Symons - BMFA11/01/2016 13:33:40
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Posted by Area 51 on 11/01/2016 12:20:53:

Hey C8 you have got to laugh... right?

Seemingly this was news given last week to the "freeflight and CL" boys at a meeting with the head of the BMFA in attendance..

Nothing on the BMFA website though as of 5mins ago!

Probably explains why there is so much coverage of freeflight in the BMFA news..

No need for us to worry about drones ruining the hobby is there.

Nothing on the website yet because what goes on the BMFA website will be accurate and not a combination of rumour, miscommunication, chinese whispers and incorrect statements about meetings. I would suggest you wait for an official statement on the website. The BMFA full council meeting was only on Saturday which is quite rightly where matters are discussed and finalised.

With regards to "so much coverage of freeflight in the BMFA news." The reason there is some coverage is because the FF guys ensure articles are regularly submitted. Out of interest how many free flight articles do you think should be in there?

Edited By Andy Symons - BMFA on 11/01/2016 13:34:13

john stones 111/01/2016 14:03:05
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Looks like an update from BMFA there teeth 2 Cheers Andy will keep an eye out for the info.

John

Martyn K11/01/2016 14:46:23
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Posted by Andy Symons - BMFA on 11/01/2016 13:33:40:

With regards to "so much coverage of freeflight in the BMFA news." The reason there is some coverage is because the FF guys ensure articles are regularly submitted. Out of interest how many free flight articles do you think should be in there?

Edited By Andy Symons - BMFA on 11/01/2016 13:34:13

Balance is OK IMHO. There are lots of outlets for RC sports flyers - very few for specialisms.

M

Martin Harris11/01/2016 16:57:30
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https://www.bmfa.org/News/News-Page/ArticleID/2333/The-2016-Power-Nationals

Edited By Martin Harris on 11/01/2016 16:57:59

john stones 111/01/2016 17:14:44
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Well showline and stalls works for me, hope it's still my neck of the woods though if it's a goer hot

John

ken anderson.11/01/2016 17:27:03
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BMFA...if you are reading please consider elvington airfield.....

ken anderson...ne...1 bring the Nats to us dept.

flytilbroke11/01/2016 17:46:53
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For the AUGUST Nat's to use Elvington I suggest that this would entail a much reduced event to that which we are used to at Barkston. I would wait and see as Andy Symons suggests.

john stones 111/01/2016 17:52:07
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It's already been said it'll be showline and trade FIB, if they get a venue.

John

Area 5111/01/2016 18:22:43
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Posted by ken anderson. on 11/01/2016 17:27:03:

BMFA...if you are reading please consider elvington airfield.....

ken anderson...ne...1 bring the Nats to us dept.

+1 for Elvington from me.. still the same distance - 110mls +

Will the RAF not consider allowing the use of one of their other sites for this event?

I’m guessing this will have already been asked, but if they wont – its very poor show considering they have the RAFMAA for personnel; and of course as tax payers their facilities are in fact ours..

Given the gravity of this news to modelling community, perhaps before any announcement is made - the first juncture should be preparing a media statement to coincide with any passing of the information verbally, ideally released before meetings! The very least, the same time!

I see its 15 lines on the BMFA website, this could have been put out as soon as it became knowledge.. to the membership.. the employers of the Chacksfield crowd..

This can not be hard given the availability of media comms to organisations, facetube/twitter/BMFA website... A brief summary of the disappointing news could have been released before making the same available as some meeting "all the membership" were not attending.

This, in the very least, would remove the impact or any opportunities of it being misreported elsewhere!.

A couple of pages on each discipline would be good within the BMFA news; hobby developments/BMFA activities to support hobby would also be good.. The mug shots of awards is really tiresome and means little to anyone who did not attend, enter or enjoy that aspect of the hobby!.. Perhaps these could be on the website! with more detail and images of the area of influence the award was won in or for!..

Maybe even a video of why Mr/Ms X won the control line indoor foam scale warbird trophy.. this could even provide a link to more pages on this area of the hobby to those who are interested in it.. team to contact in each area to “get involved”..

Membership engagement I think it comes under..

MattyB11/01/2016 18:22:58
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Shame, that is bad news - I was planning on taking my daughter for the first time this year too, as she is just about old enough to dodge the early evening freeflighters now! Whatever the reason given by the RAF, I would imagine it is going to be much harder to regain access next year than it has to retain it in the past. Fingers crossed we have not seen the last full nationals at Barkston...

Area 5111/01/2016 19:06:41
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SYWELL !

Essjay11/01/2016 19:36:36
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How about Long Marston? That seems to be fairly central N,S,E and West (if you don't count Scotland)

clive simpson11/01/2016 19:51:50
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Other than the chosen ones,is this web site not the one that informs the majority of the membership?

Doug Campbell11/01/2016 20:30:37
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A show line and trade stands? What a load of rubbish. The main national championships reduced to this. Come on Bmfa you can do better than this.
alec james11/01/2016 20:58:53
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Essjay I think Long Marston has been sold for housing otherwise that would have been a good venue for sure.

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator11/01/2016 21:49:36
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Posted by Doug Campbell on 11/01/2016 20:30:37:
A show line and trade stands? What a load of rubbish. The main national championships reduced to this. Come on Bmfa you can do better than this.

I'm afaid I agree. For me the showline is the least interesting aspect of the NATS. If I want to go to a show there are any number of them around the country - and I stopped going to them some years ago as just being the "same old same old". But the NATS was unique, for its breadth of events including many you don't often see, its sense of community and just all round great atmosphere. A showline and trade? Nah - if I wanted that I could go to Weston Park,....and I don't!

Very sad.

BEB

Geoff S11/01/2016 22:22:18
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I get the feeling that the RAF isn't very interested in allowing their facilities (or our facilities as tax payers as someone mentioned earlier) to be used for aeromodelling events. The use of Barkston has been quite seriously reduced in the past couple of years. Until recently it was the home of Grantham (IIRC) model club as well as being used for a fly-in over Christmas/New Year until the permission was withdrawn at very short notice.

Geoff

Erfolg11/01/2016 22:29:52
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I would anticipate that in future access to MOD sites will become far harder to obtain than it is today, as the number of sites reduce and activities on the sites increase. That is without considering security issues.

Perhaps it is time to forge a deeper relationship with the National Trust, with a view to using one of their large parks. An example is Tatton Park, located in the NW, within easy reach of the M6. At present various shows take place, ranging from Motor Shows, Gardening Shows, Pop and also classic concerts.

What ever the solution is, it will require the BMFA to be far more flexible, not as London or Leicester Centric. There are many regions of the UK, which includes Scotland, which also lies north of the Watford Gap, just after the North East of England by one route or just after the Knutsford Service area on the opposite side taking a more North Westerly route.

As others have indicated there are potential alternatives, as it is clear that circumstances have changed and almost certainly continue to change.

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