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Paul Bromley25/09/2018 16:53:01
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Can I ask for some help again please from you Multiplex guys, 30 years of Futaba makes me a dummy ! I have installed the copilot module into my SX9 which seems to be working. Can I use a Royal Evo 7 as the pupil transmitter and if so how do I get it to bind ? there may be a huge gap in my understanding sorry !!

Robert Welford25/09/2018 19:01:33
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I'm not familiar with the Multiplex co-pilot module. However, I've used the Multiplex M-link trainer dongle with Multiplex Pro 16 transmitters.

The pupil transmitter is bound to the dongle by first switching on the pupil tx in binding mode and pressing a button on the dongle.

Is there a binding button on the co-pilot module, or is it integrated into the Multiplex Cockpit software?

Edited By Robert Welford on 25/09/2018 19:02:52

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 19:06:14
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On the screen of the SX9 there is a search for pupil transmitter option which I guess is the equivalent of the press button on the dongle I will try it this way around many thanks.

Paul.

Max Z25/09/2018 19:12:57
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I don't want to sound pedantic, but then again I don't know how big your "gap in understanding" is, do you realise that your Evo 7 should have been converted to M-Link (2.4 gHz)?

Edited By Max Z on 25/09/2018 19:13:59

Andy Palmer25/09/2018 19:16:30
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I can't help you I'm afraid as I've never used the Copilot, I think you need Frank Skilbeck. Or try the Multiplex technical forum (http://technikforum.multiplex-rc.de/)

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 19:18:56
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Posted by Max Z on 25/09/2018 19:12:57:

I don't want to sound pedantic, but then again I don't know how big your "gap in understanding" is, do you realise that your Evo 7 should have been converted to M-Link (2.4 gHz)?

Edited By Max Z on 25/09/2018 19:13:59

Sorry its not that big LOL ! the Royal Evo is 2.4 M link.

Frank Skilbeck25/09/2018 19:42:02
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Yes, no problem using the Royal Evo providing it is M Link, I use my Royal Pro 9 with my Profi.

On the Profi there is a link in the training menu for binding to the co-pilot you select this and then put the Royal Evo into bind mode, (push the spanner button while switching on) job done.

Note on the MPX sets it's the just the control inputs that are transferred, so all the trims, rates, expo and any mixes stay on the master Tx, you can also decide which control inputs you assign to the pupil.

The Cockpit Sx instructions are on page 45 of the v1.30 manual.

Edit, sorry I got distracted and delayed posting, it looks like you've got it now.

Edited By Frank Skilbeck on 25/09/2018 19:43:56

Percy Verance25/09/2018 20:11:30
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The older Trainer stick with it's DIN pin/ socket could be used in a 35mhz transmitter if desired, but the pupil tx had to be M Link because it was bound to the trainer stick which was plugged into the master tx. The newer Co-Pilot seems a far superior system , particularly with it's facility for the teaching pilot to regain control simply by moving his sticks.

Edited By Percy Verance on 25/09/2018 20:15:21

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 20:21:11
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No matter which way I try to bind the two either teacher TX on first or the Royal Evo in blind mode first the master TX does not find the pupil, is there a setting somewhere that is preventing this thanks for all the help.

Percy Verance25/09/2018 20:26:49
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I don't know if the Co-Pilot works in the same way as the older Trainer Stick Paul, but with the older system you bound the pupil transmitter to the Trainer Stick not the Master transmitter. assuming the Co Pilot works in the same way - I don't own a Co-Pilot, only the old system so I don't know - then might this be where the problem is? Not that it's possible to bind one tx to another anyway......

 

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 25/09/2018 20:34:07

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 20:36:46
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Paul Bromley25/09/2018 20:37:40
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I am hitting the pupil search button on this screen SX9 and turning on the Royal Evo Pro 7 in bind mode nothing is ever found ?

Percy Verance25/09/2018 20:44:14
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So Paul, at the moment you click on the Pupil Search, the Royal Evo does actually say BINDING on it's screen then?

And the transmitters are immediately adjacent to each other?

You may also need to put the Royal Evo into Pupil  mode Paul...but there again I'm assuming it all works in a similar way to the old system. It may not........

In any case Paul, I'd set the Royal in bind mode first before initiating the search on the Cockpit.

 

 

 

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 25/09/2018 20:53:35

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 20:54:14
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Yes the Royal evo flashes binding (I have selected pupil M in its menu) and the the search on sx9 says searching but they won't bind I'll try again very adjacent thanks.

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 21:18:16
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Thanks Guys you eventually led me to the answer ....... nowhere does it say this, but you have to press and hold the button on the master tx as though you were training someone then it binds instantly !

Paul Bromley25/09/2018 21:19:02
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Apologies if that should have been obvious to me !

Frank Skilbeck26/09/2018 08:19:38
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No apologies required, that wan't obvious to me either.

Capt Kremen26/09/2018 09:48:38
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MPX is brilliant gear but their instructions are .... Mmmm .... challenging!

My club mate & I, have the 'Co-Pilot' installed in my 'Teacher' Tx, 'Cockpit 9' and although early days as yet, has worked successfully with his 'Cockpit 7' as pupil.

Meanwhile, I'm struggling 'hit 'n miss' with the MPX Gyro 3 instruction manual. Got it to work but how was more luck than judgement following all the 'blinks' of LEDs!

Paul Bromley26/09/2018 09:57:29
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Err yes I was quite surprised to get the copilot unit from them with nothing, not a word of instructions and when you do get a small book the instructions lag behind the firmware update ! Maybe all the german stuff on the net I can't read is what you need. I agree however nice quality stuff !!

Edited By Paul Bromley on 26/09/2018 09:59:29

Max Z26/09/2018 10:28:43
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As Andy says, go to the Multiplex Technikforum http://technikforum.multiplex-rc.de

The guys there include Multiplex crew and individual users, most of them happy to answer questions in English.

(I think I have seen Frank Skilbeck hovering around there too...Frank S?)

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