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Amazon completes first Prime Air delivery in Cambridge

Airspace access should be "determined by capability"

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Martin Whybrow14/12/2016 20:50:39
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not for one moment going to believe this will ever become a reality and this is all a publicity raising stunt.

John Helling14/12/2016 20:55:50
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Hi All

Just watched the Amazon advert/video about UAV delivery.

From their own advert it would appear that it breaks the law, they state that delivery is autonomous and controlled by GPS. Is this a case of one law for us and another for them or are they hoping that if it raises no objections, then they can approach the authorities saying that no one complained so it must be OK.

Make a noise, BE heard,e mail your MP and complain.

John H

john stones 114/12/2016 20:59:38
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Why ?

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator14/12/2016 21:09:13
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yes why? There is nothing illegal in that.

BEB

Dave Hopkin14/12/2016 21:10:06
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Posted by John Helling on 14/12/2016 20:55:50:

Hi All

Just watched the Amazon advert/video about UAV delivery.

From their own advert it would appear that it breaks the law, they state that delivery is autonomous and controlled by GPS. Is this a case of one law for us and another for them or are they hoping that if it raises no objections, then they can approach the authorities saying that no one complained so it must be OK.

Make a noise, BE heard,e mail your MP and complain.

John H

They have an exemption **LINK**

Steve J14/12/2016 21:12:07
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Posted by John Helling on 14/12/2016 20:55:50:

Is this a case of one law for us and another for them or are they hoping that if it raises no objections, then they can approach the authorities saying that no one complained so it must be OK.

Do you really think that they are doing this without the agreement of the CAA?

Steve

Gary Manuel14/12/2016 21:12:19
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Amazon have been granted special permission by the CAA to test in the Cambridge area.

They are not doing anything illegal.

Can't see it being economically viable myself.

Gary Manuel14/12/2016 21:15:08
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Anyone from CMACI on here with any local gossip?

Peter Christy14/12/2016 21:18:56
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I have no idea if Amazon were acting illegally, or if they had an exemption. Either way, its irrelevant, because:

1) Its setting a very bad example in public, undoing much of the good work being done by the BMFA and responsible flyers. Every cowboy is now going to use the Amazon video as an excuse. "If they can do it without being prosecuted, m'lud, so can I!"

2) BEB: Lighten up! I wasn't suggesting that the CAA themselves are corrupt. Like any government department, however, they are susceptible to political pressure. I've worked for a major organisation, supposedly independant of the government, but whose finances were controlled by it. I've seen how that kind of pressure works, and its a VERY brave (and probably career shortened) manager who stands up to the politicos. Amazon can probably afford to pay off the UK National Debt out of their petty cash (remember, they are a major player in the space launch industry, something the UK can't afford to do!). Do you really think out government is going to let a "minor" infringement of the regulations stop them showing how "open for business" we are?

3) The above probably wouldn't be so bad if they actually paid their taxes here, rather than syphoning them off through Luxembourg.

We *really* didn't need this!

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Pete

Gary Manuel14/12/2016 21:25:14
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Well this has put the kibosh on the flying I had planned for this weekend.

I've been invited on a shooting holiday somewhere in Cambridgeshire wink

john stones 114/12/2016 21:39:01
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Posted by Gary Manuel on 14/12/2016 21:25:14:

Well this has put the kibosh on the flying I had planned for this weekend.

I've been invited on a shooting holiday somewhere in Cambridgeshire wink

Thought it was Coventry wink

rcaddict14/12/2016 21:59:46
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dont worry guys I think Jeremy C was flying it cheeky

Ben B14/12/2016 22:30:27
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Isn't busy leading the labour party? Oh hang on....
ChrisB14/12/2016 22:32:38
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Lovely video but.....how did he get the landing pad there?

What if he wasn't in?

What if the wind was gusting to 30, 40, 50?

Interesting its in the middle of the countryside, very different in cities, where most people live.

I remain unconvinced that the world will end due to Amazon drones.

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator14/12/2016 22:40:00
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thumbs up

BEB

Andy Meade15/12/2016 08:47:40
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I'm ready. Just bought a new semi-auto too yes

ken anderson.15/12/2016 08:53:02
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publicity for amazon....in practice I think its pie in the sky to be done as an everyday delivery service......and as ben has said -I think it will be a free for all...ambushing the drones......as one of my friends say's "bring it on"

ken Anderson...ne..1 ......... pie in the sky dept.

Edited By ken anderson. on 15/12/2016 09:07:29

malcolm woodcock 115/12/2016 11:53:59
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Would a powerful water pistol or a high pressure hose be effective against them, or even a rainy day?

Martin Whybrow15/12/2016 17:12:22
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Posted by Gary Manuel on 14/12/2016 21:15:08:

Anyone from CMACI on here with any local gossip?

Why would anyone in Ontario be any the wiser about this?

ken anderson.17/12/2016 09:04:46
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in todays newspaper...the delivery was the grand total length of ................................................ 760 yards from one property to the one next store..

ken Anderson...ne.......1........ what a load dept.

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