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Nigel R06/02/2017 10:52:15
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"The Right Place at The Right Time"

I found this link on another forum, thought it would be enjoyed by the cognoscenti on here. Some cracking photos.

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/581/The-Right-Place-at-the-Right-Time.aspx

Denis Watkins06/02/2017 11:30:18
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Wow Nigel, some surprises in there, not withstanding this one

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Josip Vrandecic -Mes06/02/2017 11:47:18
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Hi Nigel, first of all many thanks for sharing, and if you don't mind , I was free to simplify access to this dramatic link. This images made me really upset, saddened and reminded that wars are the worst of mankind sad

**LINK**

Note:I was so appalled by the reality of the wounded Avenger that it was Denis laid before me .

 

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kc06/02/2017 12:55:16
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Just last Saturday I was speaking to a man who was a gunner in Fleet Air Arm Avengers and Swordfish in the Pacific during WW2. It seems there was a lot more British Navy involvement in the Pacific War than I realised. The man is 92 now so he must be one of the few Englishmen left alive who fought in the Pacific war. He had a lot of memorabilia including a phrasebook in Japanese in case of capture........

OZ e flyer06/02/2017 13:12:21
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Simply stunning, shocking and amazing images. Thanks for sharing Nigel.

We should never forget these brave men and women who sacrificed so much for us.

If you ever see a serviceman/woman be they Serving or retired, shake their hand and thank them. I have a brother who served in the RAAF. He makes me proud every day knowing the things he has done.

TP

Denis Watkins06/02/2017 15:37:51
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My WOW, was in amazement that the full size flew with half a wing and saved the pilot and crew

Edited By Denis Watkins on 06/02/2017 15:38:32

Jon - Laser Engines06/02/2017 15:41:41
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Posted by Denis Watkins on 06/02/2017 11:30:18:

Wow Nigel, some surprises in there, not withstanding this one

bestofiwm45.jpg

Looks like a midair. Damage on the upper fuselage between turret and fin, and a missing gun from the turret. I guess it was side swiped from the left or down from above. Pretty impressive though

David P Williams06/02/2017 15:58:50
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If you follow the link to the website the caption with the picture explains what happened -

On half a wing and a prayer. The day before the amphibious assault on Iwo Jima, the starving and doomed Japanese garrison on Chichijima, the next island in the archipelago, came under attack by carrier-based aircraft of the United States Navy. The island was used as the primary site for Japanese long-range radio relay operations and surveillance activity in the Pacific. Avengers were used to take out the two radio stations on the island, but they faced anti-aircraft fire. This Avenger from USS Bennington, flown by Lieutenant Robert King, was one of three Avengers attacking Chichijima’s airfield. Another of the Avengers was hit by flak which blew its right wing off. That Avenger rolled hard right and into a spin, hitting King’s Avenger. The left wing of the dying Avenger struck and crumpled the rear fuselage of King’s “Turkey” and its propeller chewed off half the port wing. With the aircraft out of control at 9,000 feet, King ordered his two crewmen (Jim Dye and Grady York) to bail out, but, as he was attempting to get out himself, the aircraft righted itself and he regained control. The other Avenger spun out of control into the sea, killing all on board. The two crewmen landed close to the shore of Chichijima, waded ashore and were captured. Sadly, they were later executed by the desperate and unstable Japanese, as were six other US Navy airmen shot down in the same period. King made it back to the carrier, escorted by squadron mates, ditched and was picked up. He was, however, devastated by survivor’s guilt. In this photo we can see the tension in his shoulders as he fights the controls with both hands.

0h and being a clever cloggs, Avenger turrets had only a single barrel gun.

kc06/02/2017 16:00:58
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But it didn't really save the crew did it? 2 bailed out, waded ashore and were executed by the Japs while the pilot regained control and ditched later near carrier. see the caption on the photo and survivors guilt comment.

 

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Simon Chaddock06/02/2017 16:19:40
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It is indeed a very sad episode

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Colin Leighfield06/02/2017 16:52:01
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All very sad, I've just looked at all of the photos in Josip's post. Gripping and sobering at the same time.

kc06/02/2017 17:08:25
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That photo shows the rear canopy closed .....if the gunner had bailed out wouldn't it be open still? Perhaps they are still inside.

Jon - Laser Engines06/02/2017 17:11:49
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Oh i didnt go to the site and read the blurb as i didnt have time, nice to know my AAIB skills arent too far wide of the mark though And yea ok fair enough, most gun turrets have two guns in them

Simon Chaddock06/02/2017 17:48:50
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kc

The rear canopy did not slide but was a lift up type. The picture shows it not fully closed but just dropped down as it would after the radio man had bailed out. The rear gunner exited out of the side of the turret. They could both also exit through the access door in the rear fuselage..

Edited By Simon Chaddock on 06/02/2017 17:52:14

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