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bouncebounce crunch01/03/2017 09:18:26
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Tony Nijhuis is on a mission to make a Hawker Harrier succeed in rc.

So what other aircraft would be a challenge to be as close to scale operation?

the Goodyear Inflatoplane is my top pick.

what else?

Giuseppe Saroli01/03/2017 09:51:12
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20 years ago i was involved in the building of the VTOL experimental XV 154 Tiltrotor great fun and very chalenging full story here enjoy

http://monarchmodels.co.uk/our_project.php

J D 801/03/2017 09:52:44
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Many of the early aeroplanes would fit the bill as they were marginal flyers anyway.

How about a Voisin Farman 1 the first aircraft to make a cross country flight in 1908.

Malcolm Combes 101/03/2017 10:57:46
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Do you remember the Loving "Love" by Chris Foss with its tiny tailplane? Those little racers are very tricky with their small flying surfaces.

Geoff S01/03/2017 11:43:09
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The F104 Starfighter is tricky apparently. I think most models increase the scale wing area and, even then, the wings look inadequate. The Westland Lysander seem to be another, which is surprising considering the full-size is designed for short take-off and landings. It's a pity the only ARTF one available is so big and there doesn't seem to be a good kit..

Geoff

brokenenglish01/03/2017 12:04:18
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Geoff, I've been considering this question and, having viewed a few videos on yt, I decided that the TN Lysander, with the wood and accessories pack from MHS, would be the best bet. There are a couple of really convincing videos...

Phil Green01/03/2017 12:56:13
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The venetian-blind wing from 'Magnificent Men' smiley

Or Tony Hancocks pedal-powered canard ornithopter?

J D 801/03/2017 13:33:52
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A fellow had a Venetian-blind model made from an actual Venetian-blind at our show a few years ago. Flew well enough in the novelty slot with my drainpipe bomber and a lawnmower.

MattyB01/03/2017 14:45:25
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Posted by Geoff Sleath on 01/03/2017 11:43:09:

The F104 Starfighter is tricky apparently. I think most models increase the scale wing area and, even then, the wings look inadequate.

Yep, but then that's not really surprising given the reputation full size one had as a flying coffin! Joke from the 80s...

Q. How do you get your very own F104 Starfighter?

A. Buy a field in Germany and wait...!

Keiran Arnold01/03/2017 14:52:55
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Matty find yourself a copy of Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters LP, a whole album on the above joke

Cuban801/03/2017 15:07:26
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Wright 'Flyer'?
Mowerman01/03/2017 15:56:08
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How about the ML Gadfly (Also known as the 'durex delta'.

Or try the Blackburn B20 (sea plane with retractable single float)

I'm sure there are many others but the use of multi axis gyros makes many more previously unsuitable aircraft now possible.

Edited By Mowerman on 01/03/2017 15:57:15

buster prop01/03/2017 16:33:13
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Fairly Rotodyne with miniature ram jets at the blade tips?

Bernard Koussoulos01/03/2017 16:43:16
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Flying bed stead as per farnborough 1950s that would be a chalenge seeing it had no control surfaces as such just jet engines .crook

Devcon101/03/2017 16:46:54
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Re the Starfighter, from one of those great old documentaries on Quest I seem to recall the wings were so thin they only worked properly with some kind of air blowing system to artificially create lift and the leading edges were so thin you could cut yourself on them.

Dave Bran01/03/2017 17:27:28
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Dave Bran01/03/2017 17:28:37
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Posted by Bernard Koussoulos on 01/03/2017 16:43:16:

Flying bed stead as per farnborough 1950s that would be a chalenge seeing it had no control surfaces as such just jet engines .crook

Probably quite easy, it's only a ducted fan quad!! wink 2

Martin Harris01/03/2017 18:12:13
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The poor old F-104 does seem to get a poor press. As I understand it, the aircraft had a fairly good record in the USAF and several other air forces which operated it in its designed role as an interceptor. Operated at low level with a wingful of ordnance tacked on as an aferthought, often at low level and in poor weather, coupled with less than rigorous maintenance and less experienced aircrew lead to many losses.

A former clubmate operated a turbine powered version and was delighted with its handling - including a couple of deadstick landings. I've always thought that the very long nose distorts the plan form, making the already fairly small wings look cartoonish - saw 15' off the front and it looks a lot more sensible!.

Cuban801/03/2017 19:26:33
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Devcon101/03/2017 19:54:57
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All drawn from wiki but these were some of the F104 nicknames given by the crews that operated them.

Aluminium Death Tube.

Lawn Dart

Widowmaker

Missile With a Man in it

Flying Coffin

Ground Nail ( military term for tent pegs)

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